From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Suggestions for 1L computer to run Emacs 2019 Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2019 10:06:03 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="196266"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 06 16:06:54 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1grOms-000ouJ-Kx for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2019 16:06:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52385 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1grOmr-0002im-JL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2019 10:06:53 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52108) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1grOmI-0002ie-Mj for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2019 10:06:21 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1grOmH-0003jL-Rp for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2019 10:06:18 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=39660 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1grOmH-0003iX-L5 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2019 10:06:17 -0500 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1grOmD-000nzA-Ec for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2019 16:06:13 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Cancel-Lock: sha1:qD0Kcre2YbUXAS7PUOvzKwInebk= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:119220 Archived-At: > What I have is the Mac Mini (late 2009) and on to it GNU/Emacs runs. > Happily. The hardware consists of a twocore cpu, 8Gb ram, 256Gb SSD, > gigabit networking. > > But, the operating system is no longer served as upgradeable. Odd. My 2006 Mac Mini is still using the very latest version of the operating system (Debian testing ;-). > I am looking for hardware with "fit and finish" improving on what I > have and for the operating system to be free and open where possible. Keeping the same machine won't improve the "fit and finish", but upgrading to Debian will definitely improve on the "free and open where possible". And it will save the planet a fair bit of green house gases and pollution at the same time, so you'll get double karma points. > System76, HP, ChromeOS suppliers satisfy the 1L constraint but they > don't look serious like, not even, the Apple TV puck. Indeed Apple is one of (if not *the*) most serious company in terms of not letting their customers own "their" devices. System76 is a joke in comparison. For that reason, I'd go with System76 any day. https://puri.sm/ is another one that doesn't take controlling its customers seriously at all (tho they don't offer any desktop machine yet, AFAIK). >> A cubietruck definitely fits the 1L constraint and runs a recent Emacs >> just fine, and there are hordes of similar little beasts out there. > The cubieboard is like the Raspberry Pi, some have the Mathematica > package. The look of them is like the fork in Toy Story 4. Not sure whether that means it's a good fit for your use case. [ And not only because I haven't watched TS4. ] If you need something silent (and hence fanless), it's not the worst choice and it's damn cheap. Stefan "hoping System76 will have fanless desktops next time he needs to replace his own"