From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: transient Date: Fri, 01 May 2020 14:03:38 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87368npxw4.fsf@bernoul.li> <87v9ljo5d0.fsf@bernoul.li> <87ftcnxu5m.fsf@bernoul.li> <83y2qezlpd.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="105107"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Jonas Bernoulli , Emacs developers , Philippe Vaucher , Adam Porter , Eli Zaretskii , Kyle Meyer To: =?windows-1252?B?Sm/jbyBU4XZvcmE=?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri May 01 20:04:50 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jUa1o-000R9S-DJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 01 May 2020 20:04:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42838 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUa1n-0006Qw-9Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 01 May 2020 14:04:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46418) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUa0p-0005ze-KR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 May 2020 14:03:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUa0o-0001K2-B7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 May 2020 14:03:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:21830) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUa0m-0001HJ-J8; Fri, 01 May 2020 14:03:44 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 4EB63100FBB; Fri, 1 May 2020 14:03:42 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id B6C90100EF4; Fri, 1 May 2020 14:03:39 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1588356219; bh=qePkBYZOl29VKXvk1zcrNuXgWPXcIhGX0y9R75sZS4A=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=R5gRJaf7chIALIyIu2Vcs0jRJG4J75d3XyjQd75P6UvNhoddvhm4KF5l6jPBRzCbj 40TsYQqM5eHsnzpqwZtWxmG/736Hzf0EKWWQQEOPA0b2YE4H00U9i7uBdgwN26JGuF aFOlzGTdK6d9XHyLZ3WAUs281pwCj3F3P0u5h2U9WJhRI4dgH5bwkOu+KxUYA4tRw0 huEwGE5OikoFVcbaqqtNYcWyMtiulN9ek7ny9n5LBcz58Q3CnuNh/6decD/vWCnVw9 QOUs8mhwJI53+/gVX1Qt+c4XbDZgmvubQewqqoh63m2jK4v03qPsi+XFa7M7raAOvz ROkZf113oFleg== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [216.154.3.202]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 431E21204F0; Fri, 1 May 2020 14:03:39 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (=?windows-1252?Q?=22Jo=E3o_T=E1vora=22's?= message of "Fri, 1 May 2020 18:38:45 +0100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/01 11:55:41 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 132.204.25.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248325 Archived-At: >> things (e.g. add a `list` package where all the list functions get >> a new name using the `list` prefix, or add a `process` package were >> all the process related primitives are given a "process-"prefix, >> ...). > Ok to the others, but please don't add a `list` package. It will make the > Lisp gods cry. I don't have any better arguments :) FWIW, I also think `list` above was a poor choice of example (not only because of the baggage of history, but also because Lisp's lists are really just a generic low-level data structure used for all kinds of things besides actual lists, so it's the typical example where a classification can't be satisfactory). `process` is much more likely to lead to a good solution. Stefan