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>> I think that's good enough for `emacs-29`, yes.
>
> Why do we have to fix this in Emacs 29?  The problem doesn't sound
> very important to me: variables that are ignored should not be a
> subject of scrutiny in Edebug too frequently, and I cannot even
> imagine a use case where it would be important for debugging.
>
> So I'd prefer to fix this on master instead.

The reason I was thinking of `emacs-29` was that it's a regression in
Emacs-29.  But I agree that it's not super important, so it can go to
`master` (we may want to try and remember to backport it for
Emacs-29.2, tho).


        Stefan