From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Subversion of user chosen major mode by Emacs. [Was: My usage of imenu is broken.] Date: Thu, 30 May 2024 11:08:45 -0400 Message-ID: References: <86r0dmtbk2.fsf@gnu.org> <867cfbswfg.fsf@gnu.org> <87a5k79xnu.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24615"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 30 17:09:47 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sChPW-0006Aq-V6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 30 May 2024 17:09:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sChOg-0005LT-U1; Thu, 30 May 2024 11:08:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sChOe-0005L0-AL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 May 2024 11:08:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sChOb-0004xX-PG; Thu, 30 May 2024 11:08:52 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 84043100064; Thu, 30 May 2024 11:08:47 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1717081726; bh=jQIT/3iX+WGiZplp+xM19837/9I/XOjj/FnVsV60IOM=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=nv7UB+Opo2vW5KK/gRE89hL3KEHWIzFTX7GqjQl1k28sKOl7aUrzY8yy7t0phnrZx W0Et41tBOJgOaAsH0ipobls16t5yzkdCRquG4yeluVZbIX2Tp5YTgug1uGJSBCmZwq BNQWtI+MPDsxsmkx2pSuBliEomeYZoQ2t7i7IX/JD9uPvSWqpvoObweJUGJpCdIcCt HXgBnq42xmaNjkwv6jrQcUi6DsgF3P0YVAUf6E+i9q2E5+QVwVaIUn2PpYl/x8v9M/ c5IId/QAtCIlTpuVxiVwzrIlCC2fTyH7nd9SyRXU8jVCe5Bko0dIFq6SVOvMnRUe41 K2YV52yqqfzTw== Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 9EB5F100042; Thu, 30 May 2024 11:08:46 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [24.140.236.196]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6D0E6120497; Thu, 30 May 2024 11:08:46 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87a5k79xnu.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Thu, 30 May 2024 22:33:57 +0800") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:319754 Archived-At: >> AFAICT it is a lot more common for file-local vars to be abused to >> specify mere user preferences, than the reverse (i.e. where there really >> is a technical reason why the file should be edited with js2-mode rather >> than js-mode). > True, but this doesn't answer Eli's question. No, I didn't feel the need to repeat your answer. And of course there are various other solutions: this is Emacs we're talking about, so you can "always" code-your way around any special case. E.g. it's easy enough to (defalias 'cc-c-mode #'c-mode) and then use -*- cc-c -*- And if it ever turns into a common enough need, it'll be easy to streamline one of those solutions. Stefan