From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gnus integration (was: MH-E 7.4.4 checked in) Date: 15 Jul 2004 12:07:54 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <1890.1089689203@newt.com> <2914-Tue13Jul2004070451+0300-eliz@gnu.org> <3589.1089692661@newt.com> <2914-Tue13Jul2004215551+0300-eliz@gnu.org> <861xjfkpgu.fsf@rumba.de.uu.net> <20040714220410.GA27263@fencepost> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1089907751 29543 80.91.224.253 (15 Jul 2004 16:09:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 16:09:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Kai Grossjohann , "Kim F. Storm" , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 15 18:08:58 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Bl8n3-0004kl-00 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 18:08:57 +0200 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Bl8n3-0000pM-00 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 18:08:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bl8pW-0003E0-M0 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 12:11:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bl8pS-0003CM-CJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 12:11:26 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Bl8pQ-0003Bt-Gd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 12:11:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Bl8pQ-0003Bq-Cl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 12:11:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [132.204.24.67] (helo=mercure.iro.umontreal.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bl8mJ-00069W-La; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 12:08:11 -0400 Original-Received: from asado.iro.umontreal.ca (asado.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.24.84]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 392AFB30280; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 12:07:55 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by asado.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 8855C8CA23; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 12:07:54 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: Miles Bader In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 17 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=0, requis 5) X-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:25728 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:25728 > I think the best way forward is to check in an unmodified Oort Gnus along > with a "best effort" list of things that might need merging (a big patch > file, maybe). Then ask Dave Love what changes he made on the original Gnus > version before checking it in (in high-level terms) so we can assess what > needs to be redone. Then we can all try to help select what really needs > to be merged and do the merge (I can easily merge in the patches that > I installed, for example). And of course, my first paragraph (not quoted here) implies that any change that we thus apply to the unmodified Oort Gnus should be carefully passed on to the Gnus maintainers for inclusion. Some may think "this is too much work", but I think instead we should at it as a good way to make sure we concentrate on the really important changes. Stefan