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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@ORACLE.COM>
Cc: 5299@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#5299: Default mailer (was: custom-reevaluate-setting / custom-initialize-delay)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 13:51:05 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvmxyywk0t.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6C9499604D654518BE69C7DC805E18C6@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 24 Feb 2010 09:35:38 -0800")

>> Thanks, so I think the patch below is needed, can you try it to see if
>> it helps?
> Nope.
> I loaded a patched version of gnus-art.el, then tried to send a bug report.
> I got only this (in *Messages*):

> Sending...
> Sending via mail...
> message-send-mail-with-sendmail: Sending...failed with exit value 1

I guess that good: it means that my patch worked and then you bumped
into the next problem which is that message-send-mail-function is not
set to use mailclient.

I think we need to revisit the setting for the default mailer: I think
neither the mailclient-send-it nor any other setting is a good default.
I think we should instead use as default a special function that prompts
the user whether he wants to use his external MUA to send email
(i.e. use mailclient-send-it), or to use /usr/sbin/sendmail, or to use
smtpmail in which case it'll ask the user to configure his SMTP server.

And this should be used on *all* systems rather than only under w32
and/or macosx, since sadly /usr/sbin/sendmail is too often unusable even
under GNU/Linux (my /usr/sbin/sendmail is usable, but I must admit that
it took me a significant amount of work on my laptop, so I can't expect
most people to go through that trouble).


        Stefan






  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-24 18:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-23  1:41 custom-reevaluate-setting / custom-initialize-delay David Reitter
2010-02-23 18:04 ` Glenn Morris
2010-02-23 18:40   ` David Reitter
2010-02-24  1:14     ` Glenn Morris
2010-02-24  3:47       ` David Reitter
2010-02-26  4:45       ` Glenn Morris
2010-02-23 18:42   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-23 18:49   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-23 19:08     ` Drew Adams
2010-02-24  4:14       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-24  4:19         ` Drew Adams
2010-02-24  3:09     ` Glenn Morris
2010-02-24  4:15       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-24  4:15       ` Drew Adams
2010-02-24  5:11         ` bug#5299: " Stefan Monnier
2010-02-24  5:30           ` Drew Adams
2010-02-24 16:30             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-02-24 17:35               ` Drew Adams
2010-02-24 18:51                 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2010-02-24 20:15                   ` bug#5299: Default mailer (was: custom-reevaluate-setting / custom-initialize-delay) Lennart Borgman
2010-02-24 21:13                   ` Drew Adams
2010-02-24 21:35                     ` bug#5299: Default mailer Stefan Monnier
2010-02-27  3:45                       ` bug#5299: Glenn Morris
2010-02-24  7:15         ` custom-reevaluate-setting / custom-initialize-delay Reiner Steib
2010-02-24 16:29           ` Drew Adams
2010-02-25  4:21             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-25  6:47               ` Drew Adams
2010-02-26 14:26                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-02-26 15:14                   ` Drew Adams
2010-02-26 17:34                     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-02-26 17:54                       ` Drew Adams
2010-02-24  4:17       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-24  4:22         ` Drew Adams
2010-02-24  4:26           ` Drew Adams
2010-02-24  9:46             ` Lennart Borgman
2010-02-24 16:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-02-24 18:58   ` Glenn Morris

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