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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Dmitry Antipov <dmantipov@yandex.ru>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Memory again
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 06:26:26 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvmxao7qon.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EEEF5B4.3050806@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Antipov's message of "Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:28:36 +0400")

>> `garbage-collect' is supposed to give that info.  At least it does give
>> info about the data that's kept under alloc.c's control because
>> of fragmentation (these are counted as "free cells").
> I would like to propose a function which explicitly says how much free memory
> the Emacs process holds.

For the part that alloc.c holds, the "memory-usage" package in ELPA
should do the trick (or can be improved to do it).

> It's especially useful when there is a way to ask system malloc about
> how much free memory is in the heap.

It'd be great to add this data when available, indeed.  Patch welcome.

> This may be helpful to distinguish real heap fragmentation from memory
> leaks and other misuses - if the sum of values returned by
> 'memory-free' is, say, 10% of heap size, then the real fragmentation
> enters into the game.

It may also be important to try and keep track of other allocations,
which are not under alloc.c's control (e.g. allocations performed by
GUI libraries).

>> I agree that we're probably going to see better overall results by
>> improving general memory use than by trying to attack
>> fragmentation problems.
> Among this list's subscribers, Nix <nix@[hidden]> is constantly
> reporting an enormous memory usage caused by Gnus.

I think we still have a leak there somewhere.


        Stefan



  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-19 11:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-26 13:26 Memory again Carsten Mattner
2011-11-26 13:28 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-11-26 14:35 ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-11-26 14:48   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-26 17:37     ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-11-26 20:19       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-26 14:58   ` Carsten Mattner
2011-11-26 16:23     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-26 19:02       ` Carsten Mattner
2011-11-26 20:31         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-26 21:00           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-27 10:29           ` Carsten Mattner
2011-11-27 10:43             ` Andreas Schwab
2011-11-27 13:53               ` Carsten Mattner
2011-11-27 13:11             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-27 13:53               ` Carsten Mattner
2011-11-27 16:44                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-27 17:37                   ` Carsten Mattner
2011-11-27 17:59                   ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-06  4:02       ` Óscar Fuentes
2011-12-06  5:08         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-06  9:35           ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-06 10:24             ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-12-06 13:07               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-06 13:29               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-12-06 17:20                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-06 20:25                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-12-07  7:52                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-07  8:15                       ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-12-07 13:06                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-07 14:01                           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-12-08 17:30                             ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-09  3:39                               ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-12-09 13:52                                 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-06 13:12             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-06 16:28           ` Óscar Fuentes
2011-12-06 19:53             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-12-11 17:49               ` Nix
2011-12-15  3:52               ` Tim Connors
2011-12-15  4:09                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-15  4:38                   ` Tim Connors
2011-12-15  5:52                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-15  4:50                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2011-12-15  6:04                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-16 21:55                 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-12-17 17:40                   ` Nix
2011-12-18 15:13                   ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-12-19  1:34                     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-12-19  8:28                       ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-12-19 11:26                         ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2012-01-23 16:49                           ` Nix
2012-01-25 16:19                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-11-26 17:54     ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-11-26 18:47       ` martin rudalics
2011-11-26 19:09       ` Carsten Mattner
2011-11-28  4:27     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-11-28  9:24       ` Carsten Mattner
2011-11-28 15:31         ` Davis Herring
2011-11-28 21:33           ` Carsten Mattner
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-12-19 19:51 emacs user
2011-12-20  5:32 ` Dmitry Antipov
2012-01-06 14:28 ` Chong Yidong
2012-01-06 15:53   ` emacs user
2011-12-20  6:34 emacs user
2011-12-20  7:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-20 12:05   ` emacs user
2011-12-20 13:04     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-20 22:07       ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-21  8:07       ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-21 10:39         ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-21 17:55         ` emacs user
2011-12-22 14:08           ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-22 14:58             ` emacs user
2011-12-22 18:54               ` emacs user
2011-12-22 19:15                 ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-23  4:41                   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-17 10:04                     ` emacs user
2012-01-17 10:58                       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-17 13:14                         ` emacs user
2012-01-18  1:30                           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-22 23:09                 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-23  0:39               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-12-23 10:44                 ` emacs user
2012-01-05  6:13                   ` emacs user
2012-01-05 22:37                     ` Jan Djärv
2012-01-06  9:58                       ` emacs user
2012-01-06 11:10                         ` Carsten Mattner

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