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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Lisp object that refers to a C struct
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 10:44:32 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvmwzih6td.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83bofz0w7q.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 19 Oct 2012 09:14:49 +0200")

>> > It doesn't.  I meant the need to manage the table itself, grow it when
>> > needed, etc.
>> To me "table" doesn't imply "array".  It's just some kind of
>> data-structure that keeps the elements at hand.  It can be a list, an
>> array, a tree, a has-table, you name it.
> If we use a Lisp data structure, then the same issue of putting a bare
> pointer into that started this thread it pops up again, doesn't it?
> Anyway, a Lisp data structure is what I have now.

In any case, the code now does keep a table of those C structs, and they
are not reclaimed when the Lisp code loses the last "handle".
Instead they are only reclaimed when the Lisp code calls
remove-watch explicitly.

This design means we don't need a "finalizer" (i.e. code in gc_sweep
that calls us back to free the C struct), but it also means that we may
"leak" those C structs if the Lisp code just forgets to `remove-watch'.
I think that's OK for now.

>> > Call w32_valid_pointer_p, and in addition verify that the struct
>> > pointed to by it has the correct magic signature.
>> Why is that needed?
> To make sure we never dereference a pointer that doesn't point to the
> watch object.  Since the remove-watch API accepts a Lisp integer, it
> could be called with any arbitrary integer value.

But as long as the table is not corrupted, there's no risk of such
a thing happening anyway.

> IOW, I don't want to crash, even if somehow a bad pointer is found in
> the alist described below.

OK, so it's just done out of paranoia.  That's fine, but please make it
clear in the code, e.g. by placing it in an eassert.

> As I wrote, the reason for this design of the alist was to be 100%
> compatible with what Rüdiger did.  Otherwise, I could keep CALLBACK in
> the C struct as well, for example.

I think it's OK.  Encoding C pointers in Lisp integers is pretty ugly,
so we should make sure that no part of the design depends on it (so it
can be changed in the future) and we should also make it very clear in
the doc that Elisp code should not rely on those handles being integers
(treat them as black boxes instead).


        Stefan



  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-19 14:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-15 21:24 Lisp object that refers to a C struct Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-16  1:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-16  3:53   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-16 13:11     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-16 17:22       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-16 21:43         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-17  4:05           ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-17  6:21             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-10-17 15:50               ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-17 17:45                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-10-17 13:34             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-17 16:08               ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-17 20:23                 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-17 20:46                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-17 22:08                     ` Paul Eggert
2012-10-18  0:22                       ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-18  3:43                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-10-18  4:50                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-18  7:20                         ` Paul Eggert
2012-10-18 11:09                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-18 16:42                             ` Paul Eggert
2012-10-18 17:21                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-18  8:52                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-10-18 11:17                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-18 12:33                             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-18 17:16                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-18 22:09                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-19  7:14                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-19 14:44                                     ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2012-10-19 18:54                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-19 21:35                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-19 22:35                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-20  1:52                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-20  8:34                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-17 16:05           ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-17 16:59             ` Davis Herring
2012-10-17 20:27             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-17 21:02               ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-18  0:23                 ` Stefan Monnier

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