From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Does anyone really use emacs in terminal? Date: Sun, 05 May 2013 02:57:47 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1367737097 15184 80.91.229.3 (5 May 2013 06:58:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 06:58:17 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 05 08:58:16 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UYstj-0001Tm-My for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 May 2013 08:58:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58800 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UYstj-00066w-DB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 May 2013 02:58:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57170) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UYstX-00066q-5m for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 May 2013 02:58:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UYstW-0003Wa-9P for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 May 2013 02:58:03 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:55643) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UYstW-0003WV-2K for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 May 2013 02:58:02 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UYstU-0001B2-KD for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 May 2013 08:58:00 +0200 Original-Received: from 76-10-164-69.dsl.teksavvy.com ([76.10.164.69]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 05 May 2013 08:58:00 +0200 Original-Received: from monnier by 76-10-164-69.dsl.teksavvy.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 05 May 2013 08:58:00 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 18 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 76-10-164-69.dsl.teksavvy.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:2EWcGKoYJ9HQfEPBg8ahE4eEzp0= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:90511 Archived-At: > Seems like there's no real point in supporting terminal-mode in a text > editor these days. I think we'd drop terminal support if there was a good case *for* it. But as it currently stands, before Emacs could benefit from dropping support for terminal mode, we'd need a fair bit of change I think. Admittedly, I have internalized most of the problems with terminal mode, but I have a hard time thinking of cases where "oh, but it needs to also work in terminal mode" was a significant impediment. The only place that comes to mind is for choosing key bindings, but even there, many other constraints (e.g. backward compatibility so as not to anger all existing users; and being accessible for users of many different keyboard layouts) tend to bring in the same problems anyway. Stefan