From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] trunk r114483: * term/ns-win.el (ns-initialize-window-system): Set locale-coding-system Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2013 21:51:41 -0400 Message-ID: References: <65FF6AAC-E4BE-42FD-86D4-221842DDC479@swipnet.se> <87txh0qsbk.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1380765121 23234 80.91.229.3 (3 Oct 2013 01:52:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 01:52:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Jan =?windows-1252?Q?Dj=E4rv?= , "emacs-devel@gnu.org" To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 03 03:52:04 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VRY5B-0006u6-Lh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2013 03:52:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39454 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VRY5B-0008Lh-33 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 21:52:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38302) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VRY50-0008KG-UM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 21:51:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VRY4t-0001Di-M1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 21:51:50 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:18557) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VRY4t-0001Da-Gh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 21:51:43 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EABK/CFFsoXM//2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjEAs0BwsUGA0kMYdtBsEtkQoDpHqBXoMT X-IPAS-Result: Av4EABK/CFFsoXM//2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjEAs0BwsUGA0kMYdtBsEtkQoDpHqBXoMT X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="34635132" Original-Received: from 108-161-115-63.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([108.161.115.63]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 02 Oct 2013 21:48:20 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 9736063B99; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 21:51:41 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87txh0qsbk.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Wed, 02 Oct 2013 12:12:31 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.182 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:163818 Archived-At: >> IIUC the encoding used under Darwin for filenames is always utf-8. > In practice, yes, in theory, no. *Darwin* is just a BSD *nix kernel > (more precisely, FreeBSD kernel functions wrapped around a Mach > microkernel), and at that level, they're just byte sequences. Mac OS > X defaults to a file system which enforces UTF-8, that's all. But > consider NFS mounts (whatever the remote system wants) and removable > media (most often VFAT with some bogus Microsoft encoding). Good to know, thanks. I had the impression that the utf-8 coding was imposed at the API level rather than the filesystem level. Stefan