From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Move to git, now that bzr is no longer a req. Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 15:04:49 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20140102095347.6834E381D0C@snark.thyrsus.com> <87fvp6bdd9.fsf_-_@ktab.red-bean.com> <8761q1ljny.fsf@gmail.com> <20140103175006.GE17261@thyrsus.com> <87iou0t72n.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87a9fb99qg.fsf@Rainer.invalid> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1388865907 6039 80.91.229.3 (4 Jan 2014 20:05:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 20:05:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Achim Gratz Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 04 21:05:13 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VzXT5-0007w1-Ey for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 21:05:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55590 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzXT4-0005qu-NB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 15:05:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50949) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzXSr-0005nV-Uw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 15:05:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzXSk-0000iF-LM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 15:04:57 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:8460) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzXSk-0000iB-Hb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 15:04:50 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EABK/CFG4rwsm/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLDiYSFBgNJIgeBsEtkQoDiGGcGYFegxU X-IPAS-Result: Av4EABK/CFG4rwsm/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLDiYSFBgNJIgeBsEtkQoDiGGcGYFegxU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="43992487" Original-Received: from 184-175-11-38.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([184.175.11.38]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 04 Jan 2014 15:04:49 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id A62F4604AC; Sat, 4 Jan 2014 15:04:49 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87a9fb99qg.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (Achim Gratz's message of "Sat, 04 Jan 2014 14:07:03 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167317 Archived-At: > be) identical, then manually entering the same information in two > different places is unnecessarily complex and error-prone, so generating If you enter it twice, you're not using your tool right. Emacs can extract the commit message from the ChangeLog file right before you commit, so you don't have to enter it twice. IOW, please guys re-read the corresponding thread from a few years back. Nothing much has changed. The main issues were (and are) the following: - How to edit past commit messages when they're incorrect/incomplete/...? - How to do C-x 4 a when there's no ChangeLog file? - This last one can get a bit more delicate if you want to be able to do hack..hack..hack C-x 4 a hack..hack.. C-x C-c restart Emacs ... commit since this requires saving the commit message which you started writing in the first Emacs session: the ChangeLog file naturally lives across Emacs sessions, whereas the *VC-Log* buffer doesn't. Stefan