From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#17215: Acknowledgement (Build failure) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 09:19:57 -0400 Message-ID: References: <871tx9k1dy.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87ioqfdfuw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <53483E5E.8020705@dancol.org> <87a9brd1n8.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <53485FFF.3050301@dancol.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1397308890 10297 80.91.229.3 (12 Apr 2014 13:21:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 13:21:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 17215@debbugs.gnu.org, David Kastrup To: Daniel Colascione Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 12 15:21:22 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WYxs1-0006rq-2o for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2014 15:21:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34434 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WYxs0-0008GI-J3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2014 09:21:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58833) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WYxrq-0008Fk-Mm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2014 09:21:18 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WYxrj-0006GZ-4F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2014 09:21:10 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:37938) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WYxrj-0006GV-0g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2014 09:21:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WYxri-0005Ez-CR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2014 09:21:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 13:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17215 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 17215-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17215.139730880520053 (code B ref 17215); Sat, 12 Apr 2014 13:21:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 17215) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Apr 2014 13:20:05 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46095 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WYxqm-0005DM-Qn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2014 09:20:05 -0400 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:40278) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WYxqj-0005Cp-OY for 17215@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2014 09:20:02 -0400 Original-Received: from pastel.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id s3CDJvgX023773; Sat, 12 Apr 2014 09:19:57 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 4575860228; Sat, 12 Apr 2014 09:19:57 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <53485FFF.3050301@dancol.org> (Daniel Colascione's message of "Fri, 11 Apr 2014 14:34:55 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4910=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9378 : core <4910> : inlines <726> : streams <1157498> : uri <1727338> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:87972 Archived-At: >>> Good question. The reason is largely histerical, where it was >>> convenient to still have a partly usable Emacs. Nowadays, many more >>> people build their Emacs from trunk without having the technical >>> knowledge to detect and handle this problem, so it's probably better to >>> just abort. >> I fail to see how an Emacs that segfaults during the build can be >> considered usable to a degree making sense. I don't know why it segfaults in the current situation, but usually it works "just fine", modulo never reclaiming memory. More specifically, such an Emacs should usually have no trouble compiling a few .el files (tho the memory growth usually prevents such an Emacs from recompiling all the .el files). Stefan