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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: aurelien.aptel+emacs@gmail.com,
	"Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>,
	dmantipov@yandex.ru, sdl.web@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Why not zlib-compress-region?
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2014 17:03:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvmwcvl9iv.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <831tu96kb1.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 28 Jun 2014 20:00:34 +0300")

> Again, building GCC is not something an end user would easily consider
> when all she needs is to be able to use some plugin.

Indeed.   Luckily, there's no such need: the end user only needs to
*install* a compiler.  Also, for Windows we could consider binary
distributions, like we do for the emacs binary itself.

In any case, the fac that the dl-loaded library needs to include
a special "gpl-compatible" tag means that in 99% of the cases, it
wouldn't be one of the pre-existing libraries already installed on the
system.  So one way or another we'll end up having to tell people to
install a C compiler, or we'll have to distribute pre-compiled binaries.

Furthermore, a "plain FFI" like what I suggest (with bindings written in
C) is very useful even if we also have a "modern FFI" (with bindings
written in some DSL).  Rather than argue whether it's useful or not,
I wish someone could get the ball rolling (and if she wants to do it
with a "modern FFI", then it's fine by me as well, I'm only advocating
the "plain FFI" because it's much less work, so it seems like a much
more realistic goal, and some of its work would be useful for
a subsequent "modern FFI" anyway).


        Stefan



  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-06-29 21:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-26  9:20 Why not zlib-compress-region? Leo Liu
2014-06-26 12:07 ` Dmitry Antipov
2014-06-26 13:27   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-26 14:03     ` Leo Liu
2014-06-26 16:43       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-27 12:50         ` Aurélien Aptel
2014-06-27 13:28           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-27 15:32             ` Dmitry Antipov
2014-06-27 22:07               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-28  6:50                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-28 12:51                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-06-28 13:16                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-28 16:30                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-06-28 17:00                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-28 17:41                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-29  3:58                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-06-29 21:03                           ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2014-06-28 18:06                         ` Paul Eggert
2014-06-28 14:07                   ` Richard Stallman
2014-06-27 19:48         ` Ted Zlatanov

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