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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Kelly Dean <kelly@prtime.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Why is Elisp's defvar weird? And is eval_sub broken?
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 09:36:16 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvmw4gd0pl.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <miynlVlA0Vcsh6YTYHk4wEPMQ2qNsuPM4rVNaILGIEG@local> (Kelly Dean's message of "Sat, 14 Feb 2015 07:35:58 +0000")

> A declaration of free dynamic variables for a function could tell the
> byte compiler that those free variables aren't typos, since
> otherwise the byte compiler would expect either the symbol to be
> declared special or a lexical variable by that name to be in scope.

There is such a declaration already.  It's called (defvar <foo>).  Tada!

>> Normally, such conflicts should never happen
>> because all special vars should be named with a "package prefix", but
>> sadly, reality is different, so it was indispensable to make this
>> effect local, to allow lexical-binding code to work reliably.
> By using llet, the byte compiler will catch such conflicts, and your code
> (interpreted or compiled) that uses it will work reliably despite the
> conflicts. This means defvar's weird behavior is no longer needed.

It's not weird once you understand that it's a compiler directive which
is absent from the .elc file.


        Stefan



  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-14 14:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-12 21:32 Why is Elisp's defvar weird? And is eval_sub broken? Kelly Dean
2015-02-13 19:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-14  7:35   ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-14 14:36     ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2015-02-15 14:17       ` Daniel Colascione
2015-02-16  5:42       ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-16  7:40         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-17 23:39           ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-18 22:29             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-19 10:32               ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-19 13:23                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-20  0:11                   ` Kelly Dean
2015-02-20  2:02                     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-22  4:11                       ` Proposal for a closed-buffer tracker Kelly Dean
2015-02-22 15:53                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-22 22:03                           ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-22 22:23                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-02-23 13:53                               ` Artur Malabarba
2015-02-23 16:44                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-22 21:59                         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-28 10:15                         ` Artur Malabarba

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