From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: text-quoting-style Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 10:54:41 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83r3mn50rz.fsf@gnu.org> <20150828172501.GB4882@acm.fritz.box> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1440860100 3313 80.91.229.3 (29 Aug 2015 14:55:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 14:55:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 29 16:54:51 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZVhWt-0000JX-1r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2015 16:54:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52959 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZVhWs-0007cQ-9q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2015 10:54:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41057) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZVhWp-0007c9-7p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2015 10:54:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZVhWo-0002W7-FR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2015 10:54:47 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:41475) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZVhWk-0002Us-LE; Sat, 29 Aug 2015 10:54:42 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0AxFgA731xV/8Fw3mhcgxCEAoVVu0CHSwQCAoE8OxIBAQEBAQEBgQpBBYNdAQEDAVYjEAsOJhIUGA0kiDcIzyMBAQEBBgIBH4s6hQUHhC0FnxeSFINZI4IKHIFuIoJ4AQEB X-IPAS-Result: A0AxFgA731xV/8Fw3mhcgxCEAoVVu0CHSwQCAoE8OxIBAQEBAQEBgQpBBYNdAQEDAVYjEAsOJhIUGA0kiDcIzyMBAQEBBgIBH4s6hQUHhC0FnxeSFINZI4IKHIFuIoJ4AQEB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,465,1427774400"; d="scan'208";a="161791722" Original-Received: from 104-222-112-193.cpe.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([104.222.112.193]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 29 Aug 2015 10:54:42 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id C88C06615C; Sat, 29 Aug 2015 10:54:41 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20150828172501.GB4882@acm.fritz.box> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Fri, 28 Aug 2015 17:25:01 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:189288 Archived-At: >> > As I understand it, Alan introduced text-quoting-style because he did not >> > want curved quotes in any buffer or string, even curved quotes displayed as >> > grave accent and apostrophe. [...] > Paul's assertion I have just confirmed. Unless I've missed or > misunderstood some development in the last two months or so, the need for > `text-quoting-style' still exists: if we're going to be doing clever > things to make ` and ' get converted, or appear to get converted, into > curly quotes, then a user must be able to enable/disable this conversion. That doesn't answer the question of why we need text-quoting-style. Instead what I take from your argument is that "if we do what we do, then we need text-quoting-style". Stefan