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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: VC's modeline (was: [Emacs-diffs] master de76a16: Performance improvements for vc-hg)
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2016 16:39:26 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvmvragaav.fsf-monnier+emacsdiffs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56B8FA6D.9070105@dancol.org> (Daniel Colascione's message of "Mon, 8 Feb 2016 12:28:29 -0800")

> vc has been in place for decades, and is one of the things that makes
> programming on Emacs pleasant. I'm not in favor of just removing the
> feature because there are a few unfixed bugs. There is nothing
> fundamentally wrong with the model.

Agreed.

What I think is wrong the level of detail expected in the status line.
E.g. I think it'd be fine for VC to just display "Bzr" (or "Hg", or
"Git", or what have you) instead.  I think it'd even be fine to do that
without checking whether the file is really under that VCS's control or
not (i.e. without checking whether the file is ignored).  IOW, a file
opened in a directory with a ".git" somewhere in the parents could just
say "Git", without any other check.

> There is no reason that vc integration can't work well and be on by
> default.

Having to call a "git" process twice per find-file-noselect is a high
price for a very small benefit.

> It was working before my change; now it works better.

Yes, I'm really not arguing against your change.

> A reasonable performance improvement should not be an occasion for
> discussing the removal of a feature made faster.

Sorry.  It just reminded me of this problem that's been around for a while.


        Stefan



  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-02-08 21:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20160208185311.9470.7389@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <E1aSqvv-0002TM-Vt@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
2016-02-08 19:55   ` [Emacs-diffs] master de76a16: Performance improvements for vc-hg Stefan Monnier
2016-02-08 20:11     ` Daniel Colascione
2016-02-08 20:21       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-08 20:28         ` Daniel Colascione
2016-02-08 21:01           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-08 21:09             ` Daniel Colascione
2016-02-08 21:39           ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2016-02-08 22:02             ` VC's modeline Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-09 15:15               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-09 17:13                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-02-10 15:16                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-13 20:01                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-02-13  9:33                 ` Markus Triska
2016-02-08 23:29             ` Daniel Colascione
2016-02-13  9:35               ` Markus Triska

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