From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 43fded1: Add lisp-data-mode for editing non-code Lisp data Date: Sat, 02 May 2020 10:08:00 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20200501111127.16683.2701@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20200501111128.D311220B5B@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <87zhary243.fsf@gmx.de> <87sggiy6cp.fsf@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="74111"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: =?windows-1252?B?Sm/jbyBU4XZvcmE=?= , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Michael Albinus Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 02 16:08:45 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jUsov-000JDV-20 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 16:08:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44614 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUsou-00088L-2E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 10:08:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57312) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUsoI-0007io-63 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 10:08:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUsoH-0007BM-90 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 10:08:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:30073) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUsoG-0007A3-Q9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 10:08:04 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 48BD5100F6C; Sat, 2 May 2020 10:08:03 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id B6985100EF4; Sat, 2 May 2020 10:08:01 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1588428481; bh=exxNOsSk7etFcxXSZemZQ6MB4lzIu7MriZAkrJcwu24=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=RIEzicokG3rAbd7o5ekaqm9xxMy//FS45cLJhmYNxmg+C3Lot5yz3kjztDa0cyREi gzu16n3o0720nRD/vmigpGWQBXuZD+6RfoFQyi+0RfYmloai5OEg0cKwXmyEt8Kx2b u6YnAsBtPD8Ocv+h1D32+xU7B7Ul0tZ60vnAweSjKnvDxKdcdRQQMRD0Uv+mqar66a IZ3UOIxzPaBYCtWnmG6EBjG/duPNTDhdiQhQkJP0qBS7fnNF7fbNKDMcXEaNRW8iZU wFOl1dieiWqLqVxk9sOqNaCw/EBLZodc4X8XN8pugGyLFpEk7YYfuSK2X+pWn9ZLm/ iRwIgLjws8Ljg== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [216.154.3.202]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 636A81203E4; Sat, 2 May 2020 10:08:01 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87sggiy6cp.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Sat, 02 May 2020 12:32:54 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/02 08:59:26 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 132.204.25.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248445 Archived-At: > It is not a problem reading the file in Tramp code; Tramp uses already > `insert-file-contents-literally`. The problem is rather when you want to > visit the file interactively in a buffer. Thanks for clarifying. IIUC you may want to visit that file even with an Emacs that doesn't support Tramp at all, right? So the "backward compatibility" desired here is not directly connected to the backward compatibility needed for Tramp itself, right? Stefan