From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Confused by y-or-n-p Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2021 09:44:07 -0500 Message-ID: References: <834kkcr1eo.fsf@gnu.org> <83bleinmse.fsf@gnu.org> <56435592-d2d0-5fb6-977f-01e1931da835@gmx.at> <87k0t38g1z.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83czyvkts6.fsf@gnu.org> <87bleetirr.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87y2hhri3n.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83pn2tkfg8.fsf@gnu.org> <871rf7ippu.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83a6trg6mc.fsf@gnu.org> <87im8f951f.fsf@gnus.org> <83lfdacapo.fsf@gnu.org> <87im8d6q4q.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15180"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: juri@linkov.net, rudalics@gmx.at, Lars Ingebrigtsen , emacs-devel@gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 05 15:46:07 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kwnb3-0003lh-4z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 15:46:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56562 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kwnb1-0001wD-PP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 09:46:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33690) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kwnZR-0008Ek-M7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 09:44:25 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:19761) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kwnZM-0002Hh-5R; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 09:44:24 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 214028091E; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 09:44:16 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id A63388065D; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 09:44:14 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1609857854; bh=R4D55nn6UWdI96uVOJ1V2RwTp3cJSJQp8QxJQ47uxFU=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=DKxgYv7TywJmKOB9aRXpbuydMuxckbAYuB6e3rtgILJWvvuMy5W6Fr3tzeLXDTNkG 0gtC248IFnDIYehDTVWs+u0ZsNxGFeppKY7S9k0lD9opaGZy0TwNE1Hiq8+NYrzwuO N+F47nS7WkNWHC3nuVRcqnSPTCo6Uvt5708GULLj534/cETv40JzNYx8WbN5TRaZvu +CFf7THh1yME89wM24iDu2b+btI4ykBx334F6yF4Rfo1OlX6BYgciHCzvEyCmwMGmX zSFK96hM1PBBWTrTshkNkwh5NL+z3BSYMX3bydAqAZBUk4DwSy29hurbMLsok72GXP tpFCaZqD9DuzA== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [104.247.243.191]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4B0D912021A; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 09:44:14 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 05 Jan 2021 01:33:57 -0500") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262520 Archived-At: > A combination of our practices adds up to a system that will install > some UI changes without having much of a discussion about it. I see no evidence of that. Maybe there is no discussion *prior* to the change, but if the change ends up being controversial, there is pretty much always a discussion (long) before the next release. Stefan