From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master) Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2021 16:00:58 -0400 Message-ID: References: <16338bdc2497fc51c6fb6d54ab370bfb@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <8335pmgnjy.fsf@gnu.org> <604da2cb10ac61f2b8b89a02c89056be@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <83a6jtff87.fsf@gnu.org> <5ac7a31cf2959c31c262a3377c736a5a@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <83ilygew7p.fsf@gnu.org> <83fstjdiwl.fsf@gnu.org> <871r534s2o.fsf@gmail.com> <87sfxgx09x.fsf@gmail.com> <87zgrmv1dr.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1572"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Richard Stallman , Phil Sainty , Alan Mackenzie , Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel To: =?windows-1252?B?Sm/jbyBU4XZvcmE=?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 06 22:02:58 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mYD7x-0000Dl-TR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 22:02:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47768 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mYD7w-0006Nn-Nm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 16:02:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54490) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mYD6C-0005fa-GZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 16:01:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:31960) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mYD69-0001at-5v; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 16:01:07 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id E8FDF44073F; Wed, 6 Oct 2021 16:01:01 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 99CCB4406CD; Wed, 6 Oct 2021 16:01:00 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1633550460; bh=NHLkdpTmTSVynJd1LWC57GuFzigSjCyj2xBlTfxVsK8=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=TyK50MgLHJow62yghEYuhxBcOZ1I7DiQ9ZHqVfoAF+coyuh9sM7Fo4aYYxRjvcwtQ uD601xePF8/lThb9xr9UtL2Aj5jljjgWYon6jgOcSHtu0p3WYlD9zGRkWlGufxnDy/ Ypd5ixoxm1EcksxcJGvnS1y+keXGnMavmpzz55IaVmOJkNZoip4oygd3/nWYU5c0Sj DeE8uL166VpFMn8auSY1L29AduYmWObV3M5N7HX4lGRMtgA6ud5b42HL7P+CqGqUWA hFVkVR4hmMXoazwisruYxCL+Cmd5ZflKM/tVvIsx4vHNFolVuXrImk5CHWexAYlWGT ybdKTm8Hr0dig== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [45.72.241.23]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 55417120406; Wed, 6 Oct 2021 16:01:00 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (=?windows-1252?Q?=22Jo=E3o_T=E1vora=22's?= message of "Wed, 6 Oct 2021 17:23:39 +0100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -23 X-Spam_score: -2.4 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.4 / 5.0 requ) DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:276449 Archived-At: > In fact, someday more local things such as lexically available variables > and functions can be listed there, maybe. M-TAB already lists lexically-available variables, yes. Stefan