From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
tsdh@gnu.org, arash@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com,
jb@jeremybryant.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net
Subject: Re: Why not include all ELPA packages in an Emacs release?
Date: Thu, 30 May 2024 10:11:05 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvmso7xv0k.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87plt3a23b.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Thu, 30 May 2024 20:58:16 +0800")
> founded on such changes, but the far more numerous trivial changes that
> require adjustments hither and yon, which are so much less taxing when
> all concerned components are centralized in one repository.
You don't need to convince me of that, but that's only one side of the
coin. There's also the issue of allowing/encouraging contributions from
people who do not want to contribute to core Emacs (e.g. because they
don't like our low-tech email-based workflow, or they don't like the way
we argue, ...). Or the fact that in many people's mind once it's in
core Emacs it's in a kind of "long term retirement home" (tho apparently
there is a similar belief about GNU ELPA where some people are reluctant
to contribute a package to it before it's "complete"). Which is why
whether a package should live in core or in GNU ELPA is done on a case
by case basis and it's usually a "lesser evil" kind of choice.
BTW, technically, we *can* make a change to the Evil package without the
maintainers's agreement. It will mean that the `elpa/evil` branch on
`nongnu.git` will not be in sync with the upstream Evil Git repository
(a "fork") and that we will have to keep *merging* our local changes
with upstream updates in the future (tho that can be automated as long
as it doesn't bump into merge conflicts), so it comes at a cost, but if
the upstream's maintenance goes dead it's an option we should consider.
[ And of course, we take go the hideous hack route of adding
(put 'evil-mouse-drag-region 'ignored-mouse-command t) in Emacs's own
code. ]
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-05-30 14:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-05-28 8:48 Why not include all ELPA packages in an Emacs release? Jeremy Bryant
2024-05-28 23:15 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-05-28 23:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-29 5:59 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-29 11:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-29 15:27 ` Arash Esbati
2024-05-29 15:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-29 16:06 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-29 19:33 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-30 19:25 ` Adding AUCTeX to core " Jeremy Bryant
2024-05-30 19:33 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-31 18:58 ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-06-07 22:00 ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-06-08 6:56 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-06-08 9:40 ` Arash Esbati
2024-06-08 15:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-08 15:49 ` Po Lu
2024-06-09 3:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-09 19:39 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-05-29 22:16 ` Arash Esbati
2024-05-29 22:19 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-30 6:25 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-30 6:33 ` Daniel Mendler via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-30 7:28 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-30 8:15 ` Daniel Mendler via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-30 15:20 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-29 20:35 ` Tassilo Horn
2024-05-29 22:04 ` Arash Esbati
2024-05-30 5:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-30 10:52 ` Arash Esbati
2024-05-30 5:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-30 7:55 ` Po Lu
2024-05-30 11:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-30 11:53 ` Po Lu
2024-05-30 12:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-30 12:58 ` Po Lu
2024-05-30 14:11 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2024-05-30 14:26 ` Po Lu
2024-05-30 13:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-30 14:05 ` Po Lu
2024-05-30 15:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-30 8:00 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-29 20:44 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-05-30 5:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-07 21:48 ` Moving core packages to ELPA [Was: Re: Why not include all ELPA packages in an Emacs release?] Jeremy Bryant
2024-06-08 6:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-08 8:10 ` Michael Albinus
2024-06-08 8:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-08 15:55 ` Michael Albinus
2024-06-08 16:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-08 16:59 ` Michael Albinus
2024-06-07 21:55 ` Candidate packages for ELPA bundling " Jeremy Bryant
2024-06-08 1:44 ` Po Lu
2024-06-08 2:11 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-06-08 2:46 ` Po Lu
2024-06-08 6:41 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-06-08 6:54 ` Po Lu
2024-06-08 7:47 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-06-08 15:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-08 16:24 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-06-08 15:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-08 6:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-08 6:48 ` Po Lu
2024-06-08 15:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-08 15:37 ` Po Lu
2024-06-08 15:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-09 0:06 ` Po Lu
2024-06-09 3:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-08 6:55 ` Philip Kaludercic
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