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From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: "Mattias Engdegård" <mattias.engdegard@gmail.com>,
	"Andrea Corallo" <acorallo@gnu.org>,
	casouri@gmail.com, "Stefan Kangas" <stefankangas@gmail.com>,
	70007@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#70007: [PATCH] native JSON encoder
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:55:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvmsl0bj8a.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <867cc5mbq3.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 25 Aug 2024 08:07:48 +0300")

>> > Since this could potentially (albeit unlikely) break someone's code,
>> > I'm okay with making this change, but with a twist: let's have a
>> > variable which could be let-bound around the call to json-serialize,
>> > to make the result a multibyte string instead of the default unibyte.
>> > This is so if someone comes back crying that we broke his/her code,
>> > they could have an easy fire escape.
>> Sure, but it's a bit annoying to saddle us with some baggage that we never
>> expect to be actually used.
>> And for that matter, it's no easier to bind a variable around the call
>> than putting a call to `decode-coding-string` around it, is it? We could
>> describe that in NEWS.

The variable solution has one advantage: users can (setq ... t) in their
`.emacs` to keep old code working, tho potentially at the cost of
breaking new code.

Another option is to introduce a new name (that outputs a unicode
string) and obsolete the old one.  🙂

But just making a breaking change is not that bad: ELisp has evolved to
be pretty good at making code magically work for both encoded and
decoded strings.

>> The null option is to do nothing and stick to what we have now.
>> It's not a terrible choice either.

Returning an encoded strings is something we do want to avoid in the
long run, so we might as well bite the bullet now.

> Let's see what others think about this.  Stefan, Stefan, and Andrea:
> any opinions wrt what, if anything, we should do about this on the
> emacs-30 branch?

I vote for breaking compatibility.


        Stefan






  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-25 17:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-26 15:33 bug#70007: [PATCH] native JSON encoder Mattias Engdegård
2024-03-26 16:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-27 12:46   ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-03-27 15:49     ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-03-27 17:40       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-27 18:57         ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-03-27 19:05           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-28 20:59             ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-03-29  6:04               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-30 11:41                 ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-03-30 13:22                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-30 14:22                     ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-03-30 16:14                       ` Richard Copley
2024-03-30 16:40                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-30 23:29                           ` Richard Copley
2024-03-30 16:45                         ` Andy Moreton
2024-03-30 20:36                           ` Corwin Brust
2024-03-30 16:37                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-30 20:21                         ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-04-02 14:13                       ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-04-02 16:13                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-02 17:19                           ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-08-24 15:33                             ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-08-24 16:14                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-24 19:45                                 ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-08-25  5:07                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-25 17:55                                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2024-08-25 18:26                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-25 19:20                                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-08-31 22:15                                           ` Stefan Kangas
2024-09-07  7:26                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-07 15:48                                               ` Andrea Corallo
2024-09-07 15:52                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-08 18:33                                                   ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-08-25 20:08                                       ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-08-31  9:45                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-28 19:16   ` Theodor Thornhill via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors

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