From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: default-truncate-lines Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 16:56:22 -0500 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1204495004 2263 80.91.229.12 (2 Mar 2008 21:56:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 21:56:44 +0000 (UTC) To: Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 02 22:57:09 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JVwB8-0007kW-NV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 22:57:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JVwAb-0003Cu-SF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 16:56:33 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JVwAW-0003C6-8Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 16:56:28 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JVwAR-0003BV-Hb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 16:56:27 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JVwAR-0003BQ-Fr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 16:56:23 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JVwAR-0002OK-9H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 16:56:23 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAMewykdMCrW2/2dsb2JhbACqdoEA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,435,1199682000"; d="scan'208";a="15465192" Original-Received: from smtp.pppoe.ca ([65.39.196.238]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 02 Mar 2008 16:56:22 -0500 Original-Received: from pastel.home ([76.10.181.182]) by smtp.pppoe.ca (Internet Mail Server v1.0) with ESMTP id IYG69022; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 16:56:22 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 597438279; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 16:56:22 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Reiner Steib's message of "Sat, 01 Mar 2008 22:15:39 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:91108 Archived-At: >>>> -(defcustom gnus-article-truncate-lines default-truncate-lines >>>> +(defcustom gnus-article-truncate-lines (default-value 'truncate-lines) >>> I don't care about this change, but out of curiosity: (why) does it >>> make a difference? >> >> Every time I see one of those default-FOO variable used I get flashes of >> the following code: > [...] >> and every time I get to replace it with a use of `default-value', I feel >> like maybe this madness will disappear some day. > Wouldn't it make sense to suggest using (default-value 'foo) in the > doc strings of `default-foo'? Indeed. We should just mark all those default-* variables obsolete. The only problematic one, AFAICT is default-enable-multibyte-characters since (setq-default 'enable-multibyte-characters) doesn't work. Stefan