From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: David Reitter <david.reitter@gmail.com>,
Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>,
"Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>,
Emacs-Devel devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: visual-line-mode
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:18:41 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvlk08jfai.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y7486tux.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Sat, 12 Jul 2008 05:36:38 +0900")
>> OK, do I understand you right? Basic movement commands (when
>> interactive) on by default as per Stefan's method (which I agree is
>> better given the new feature of vertical-motion), and C-a/C-e/C-k in a
>> minor mode as per my code.
> That doesn't make much sense -- _at least_ C-a/C-e need to act
> consistently with C-n/C-p. It's mind-boggling confusing when they
> don't.
> Other commands, I dunno, though I think C-k should as well (Stefan
> apparently doesn't though).
I'm mostly using it on files with few line wrapping, so in this context,
visual-line movement for C-p and C-n is not harmful in my experience,
but for things like C-a, C-e, and C-k I find it annoying. E.g. I expect
C-a C-k to kill the whole code line, not just the part that happens to
fit within my window's width.
Also C-k is odd when operating on a visual line: if the line is wrapped,
then after C-k you'd end up still having text after point, whereas
I usually expect that after C-k point is at EOL.
Maybe it's just me.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-11 21:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-29 6:30 visual-line-mode David Reitter
2008-06-29 7:05 ` visual-line-mode Miles Bader
2008-06-29 7:19 ` visual-line-mode Miles Bader
2008-06-29 14:01 ` visual-line-mode Stefan Monnier
2008-06-29 15:29 ` visual-line-mode Chong Yidong
2008-06-30 3:07 ` visual-line-mode Miles Bader
2008-06-30 3:15 ` visual-line-mode Chong Yidong
2008-06-30 5:13 ` visual-line-mode Miles Bader
2008-06-30 5:15 ` visual-line-mode Miles Bader
2008-06-30 10:39 ` visual-line-mode Miles Bader
2008-06-30 11:20 ` visual-line-mode Miles Bader
2008-06-30 14:01 ` visual-line-mode Chong Yidong
2008-06-30 16:10 ` visual-line-mode Chong Yidong
2008-07-01 9:10 ` visual-line-mode David Reitter
2008-07-03 19:20 ` visual-line-mode Chong Yidong
2008-07-03 23:56 ` visual-line-mode David Reitter
2008-07-04 10:23 ` visual-line-mode Chong Yidong
2008-07-04 10:58 ` visual-line-mode Miles Bader
2008-07-04 13:04 ` visual-line-mode Chong Yidong
2008-07-04 15:04 ` visual-line-mode David Reitter
2008-07-04 15:49 ` visual-line-mode Stefan Monnier
2008-07-04 16:21 ` visual-line-mode David Reitter
2008-07-05 18:41 ` visual-line-mode Chong Yidong
2008-07-06 1:29 ` visual-line-mode Miles Bader
2008-07-09 14:28 ` visual-line-mode David Reitter
2008-07-10 3:05 ` visual-line-mode Chong Yidong
2008-07-10 12:39 ` visual-line-mode David Reitter
2008-07-10 13:55 ` visual-line-mode Chong Yidong
2008-08-03 13:47 ` visual-line-mode David Reitter
2008-08-11 13:38 ` word-wrap in echo area (was Re: visual-line-mode) David Reitter
2008-08-11 16:03 ` word-wrap in echo area Chong Yidong
2008-07-10 16:37 ` visual-line-mode Chong Yidong
2008-07-10 17:32 ` visual-line-mode Miles Bader
2008-07-10 17:40 ` visual-line-mode Miles Bader
2008-07-10 20:23 ` visual-line-mode Stefan Monnier
2008-07-10 23:23 ` visual-line-mode Chong Yidong
2008-07-10 23:44 ` visual-line-mode Miles Bader
2008-07-10 23:49 ` visual-line-mode Chong Yidong
2008-07-11 13:10 ` visual-line-mode David Reitter
2008-07-14 3:58 ` visual-line-mode Miles Bader
2008-07-14 3:59 ` visual-line-mode Miles Bader
2008-07-11 1:36 ` visual-line-mode Stefan Monnier
2008-07-11 2:30 ` visual-line-mode Miles Bader
2008-07-11 4:36 ` visual-line-mode Chong Yidong
2008-07-11 14:56 ` visual-line-mode David Reitter
2008-07-11 15:57 ` visual-line-mode Chong Yidong
2008-07-11 18:27 ` visual-line-mode Chong Yidong
2008-07-11 20:36 ` visual-line-mode Miles Bader
2008-07-11 21:18 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2008-07-11 21:23 ` visual-line-mode David Kastrup
2008-07-11 21:41 ` visual-line-mode David Reitter
2008-07-12 1:49 ` visual-line-mode Stefan Monnier
2008-07-12 8:09 ` visual-line-mode David Kastrup
2008-07-12 16:35 ` visual-line-mode Richard M Stallman
2008-07-12 17:42 ` visual-line-mode Chong Yidong
2008-07-16 4:21 ` visual-line-mode Chong Yidong
2008-07-16 4:37 ` visual-line-mode Miles Bader
2008-07-11 21:10 ` visual-line-mode Chong Yidong
2008-07-12 1:43 ` visual-line-mode Stefan Monnier
2008-07-10 18:08 ` visual-line-mode David Reitter
2008-07-10 23:18 ` visual-line-mode Miles Bader
2008-07-10 23:35 ` visual-line-mode Chong Yidong
2008-07-10 23:49 ` visual-line-mode Chong Yidong
2008-07-09 14:31 ` visual-line-mode David Reitter
2008-07-04 11:09 ` visual-line-mode David Reitter
2008-07-04 12:39 ` visual-line-mode Paul R
2008-06-30 7:32 ` visual-line-mode David Reitter
2008-06-30 7:43 ` visual-line-mode Miles Bader
2008-06-30 7:58 ` visual-line-mode David Reitter
2008-06-30 8:05 ` visual-line-mode Miles Bader
2008-06-30 8:25 ` visual-line-mode David Reitter
2008-06-30 8:30 ` visual-line-mode Miles Bader
2008-07-10 4:53 ` visual-line-mode Chong Yidong
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-10-21 14:35 visual-line-mode Quintana Seguí, Pere
2009-10-21 18:24 visual-line-mode Scott Randby
2009-10-21 21:14 ` visual-line-mode Scot Becker
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