From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Basic Bazaar guide for Emacs hackers. Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:28:22 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87skbzblp5.fsf@telefonica.net> <87y6log42q.fsf@red-bean.com> <87y6lo8zgi.fsf@telefonica.net> <87638sy5ab.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tywc8u7t.fsf@telefonica.net> <87k4x76wpp.fsf@telefonica.net> <8e0e71cb0911302252v6a7c9f80j532308eb0a842816@mail.gmail.com> <4B14D4FC.8070509@gnu.org> <8e0e71cb0912010726k56f90cbbm8d96b5e0dd3a6b6f@mail.gmail.com> <837ht6ms94.fsf@gnu.org> <873a3u8o45.fsf@notengoamigos.org> <83ws16la2q.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1259717394 29963 80.91.229.12 (2 Dec 2009 01:29:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 01:29:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: kfogel@red-bean.com, ofv@wanadoo.es, Jason Earl , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 02 02:29:47 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NFe2L-0001Ht-Nr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:29:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35379 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NFe2L-0008Et-06 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:29:45 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NFe2F-0008DN-28 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:29:39 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NFe2A-0008BR-Cd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:29:38 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60109 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NFe2A-0008BO-6H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:29:34 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183]:48962 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NFe28-0008Ld-MG; Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:29:32 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkoFALVRFUtLd/5a/2dsb2JhbACBTtYyhDEEihM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,324,1257138000"; d="scan'208";a="50451706" Original-Received: from 75-119-254-90.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([75.119.254.90]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 01 Dec 2009 20:29:31 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 4DB7486C4; Tue, 1 Dec 2009 20:28:22 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <83ws16la2q.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:21:17 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:118091 Archived-At: >> The history is also needed if you want to do any sort of bzr command, >> like bzr log or bzr annotate. > As you well know, these go upstream in CVS as well. So this is not > really a loss for people who want a familiar CVS-like setup. The performance will usually be significantly worse than with CVS. E.g. if you do a "bzr log", it's likely that a lightweight checkout accessing a remote repository over sftp will end up transfering the entire history (e.g. 200MB for Emacs) over the network. If you can access the repository over bzr+ssh, it might be a lot better (a lot closer to cvs), but it's still likely to be slower than cvs, if for nothing else that it's a discouraged usage. Stefan