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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Mail mode and message mode hooks
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:55:28 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvljhija8d.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87skbqm6q3.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (Chong Yidong's message of "Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:37:24 -0500")

>>> One problem that I can see with this is that code intended for one mode
>>> may not work properly for the other mode, but I can't think of any
>>> concrete examples.  Any thoughts?
>> 
>> I have no idea what kind of code people may run from such hooks.
>> 
>> The main thing to remember: the old behavior is just one setq away.
>> 
>> And as a strong supporter of message-mode, I see nothing wrong with
>> people preferring mail-mode for themselves.  Heck, I've been living with
>> exactly such a setq in my .emacs for many years now because I preferred
>> message-mode over the default mail-mode.
>> 
>> So there is really no need to work that hard at making message-mode work
>> like mail-mode.

> I am also a supporter of message-mode.  But a user moving from Emacs
> 23.1 to Emacs 23.2---a minor version upgrade!---should not experience
> breakage.  And as the feedmail example shows, there is at least one
> not-unreasonable setup that currently does break.

I think this is a small price to pay compared to the overall benefit of
properly supporting arbitrary chars and coding-systems, and other
MIME features.
Maybe we should try and add some ad-hoc checks à la bad-package-check to
catch the few known problematic cases.


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-05  4:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-01  2:18 Mail mode and message mode hooks Chong Yidong
2009-12-01  3:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-12-05  3:37   ` Chong Yidong
2009-12-05  4:55     ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2009-12-05  9:22     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-12-05 18:34     ` Davis Herring
2009-12-06 23:10       ` Chong Yidong
2009-12-06 23:52         ` Chong Yidong
2009-12-07  2:16           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-12-01 19:07 ` Chong Yidong
2009-12-01 20:41   ` Davis Herring

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