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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Phil Hagelberg <phil@hagelb.org>
Cc: tromey@redhat.com, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Integrating package.el
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:29:49 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvlje8c5pd.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <31edf1081003032139t491b2339uf5202323100248c3@mail.gmail.com> (Phil Hagelberg's message of "Wed, 3 Mar 2010 21:39:17 -0800")

> yet. Stefan also mentioned supporting having multiple versions of the
> same project installed at once. Rather than supporting this by
> allowing multiple versions to coexist in a single install location, I
> think it makes more sense to allow multiple install locations. I

I strongly disagree.  I want to be able to install all kinds of versions
in a single spot so I can quickly see which versions are available.
This said, I agree that allowing several install locations is desirable.

Actually the "install" part of the code should be able to install
a package *anywhere*.  Similarly, the activation of a package
(i.e. setting up the autoloads) should be doable from a package located
anywhere.

It doesn't need to be part of the visible UI, but there should be
a command like M-x package-install that takes a file name (a single .el
file or a tarball) and a target directory (defaults to the main "install
location") and installs it there.

The only part that really needs to know about "install locations" is the
part that lets you list all the installed packages, deinstall some of
them, setup/remove activation for some of them, etc...

> I think supporting the distinction between system-level installs vs
> user-level installs is the biggest blocker (besides more thorough
> testing) to including package.el in Emacs.

No, I think the only blocker is the support for multiple
simultaneous versions.  Tho I haven't kept track closely enough to know
if there might be copyright-paperwork issues left.


        Stefan




  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-03-04 18:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-26  2:55 Autoload from a web page? Lennart Borgman
2009-12-27  3:13 ` Richard Stallman
2009-12-27  3:24   ` Lennart Borgman
2009-12-28 18:48     ` Richard Stallman
2009-12-28 18:55       ` Lennart Borgman
2009-12-29  1:32         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-12-29  1:39           ` Lennart Borgman
2009-12-29  2:45         ` joakim
2009-12-29  2:54           ` Lennart Borgman
2009-12-29  4:52             ` Tom Tromey
2009-12-29 22:25               ` Lennart Borgman
2009-12-30  6:13                 ` Richard Stallman
2009-12-30 18:06                 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2009-12-30 18:30                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-12-30 19:10                     ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-01-01  0:40                     ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-01 19:27                     ` Tom Tromey
2010-01-01 19:26                   ` Tom Tromey
2010-01-04 18:12                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-12-29 15:11           ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-12-29 18:46             ` Richard Stallman
2009-12-29 21:14               ` unsupported packages area in the Emacs repo (was: Autoload from a web page?) Ted Zlatanov
2009-12-29 21:21                 ` Deniz Dogan
2009-12-29 21:38                   ` unsupported packages area in the Emacs repo Ted Zlatanov
2009-12-29 21:36                 ` Tom Tromey
2009-12-30 16:15                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-12-31  5:32                     ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-01 19:18                     ` Tom Tromey
2010-01-03  5:38                       ` Integrating package.el (was Re: unsupported packages area in the Emacs repo) Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-04 17:55                         ` Integrating package.el Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-04 19:51                           ` Tom Tromey
2010-01-05  5:02                             ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-05  5:37                               ` Lennart Borgman
2010-01-05 15:06                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-05 16:03                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-05 16:47                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-05 20:18                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-05 23:50                                         ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-01-06 20:45                                           ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-06 21:49                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-09  5:40                                       ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-09 14:32                                         ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-09 17:47                                           ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-10 10:41                                             ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-10 11:33                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-10 14:04                                                 ` Chong Yidong
2010-01-10 16:00                                                   ` joakim
2010-01-10 20:43                                                     ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-10 20:07                                                   ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-10 21:24                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-10 23:02                                                       ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-11  3:28                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-14  3:12                                                           ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-19 11:40                                                         ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-19 17:17                                                           ` Dan Nicolaescu
2010-02-22 19:22                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-02-22 20:36                                                             ` joakim
2010-02-23 22:25                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-02-24 21:20                                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-02-25 20:05                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-01 14:59                                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-01 16:32                                                                     ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-03-01 17:14                                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-01 20:59                                                                         ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-03-02 17:39                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2010-03-02 18:46                                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-01 21:19                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-02 13:34                                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-01 21:37                                                                     ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-03-01 22:18                                                                       ` Štěpán Němec
2010-03-01 22:30                                                                         ` Štěpán Němec
2010-03-01 23:00                                                                         ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-03-02 13:38                                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-03 20:13                                                                         ` Tom Tromey
2010-03-04  5:42                                                                           ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-03-02 19:03                                                                       ` Davis Herring
2010-02-25 22:56                                                               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-03-04  5:39                                                             ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-03-04  7:29                                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-03-04 18:27                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-05  4:41                                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-03-04 13:54                                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-04 18:29                                                               ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2010-03-04 18:33                                                                 ` Tom Tromey
2010-03-07 22:58                                                                   ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-03-04 20:39                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-07 23:16                                                                 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-03-08  3:17                                                                   ` Tom Tromey
2010-03-08 14:55                                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-08 17:01                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-08 17:53                                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-04 18:30                                                               ` Tom Tromey
2010-03-05  0:22                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-01 14:43                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-01 16:26                                                             ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-03-01 17:28                                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-01 18:06                                                                 ` Tom Tromey
2010-03-01 21:22                                                                   ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-03-03 20:15                                                                     ` Tom Tromey
2010-03-03 20:22                                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-03 22:21                                                                         ` Tom Tromey
2010-03-02 13:31                                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-01 21:09                                                                 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-01-11  3:09                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-12 20:06                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-12 21:37                                           ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-05 15:50                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-05 16:42                               ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-05 17:51                                 ` Installation, activation and setup of packages (e.g. Gnus) (was: Integrating package.el) Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-05 19:43                                   ` Installation, activation and setup of packages (e.g. Gnus) Stefan Monnier
2010-01-05 22:28                                     ` Gnus encouragement of GMail (was: Installation, activation and setup of packages (e.g. Gnus)) Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-05 17:27                               ` Installation, activation and setup of packages (e.g. Gnus) (was: Integrating package.el) Reiner Steib
2010-01-05 18:03                               ` Integrating package.el Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-05 18:40                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-05 19:14                               ` Tom Tromey
2010-01-05 20:04                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-05 23:19                                   ` Tom Tromey
2010-01-06 15:42                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-12-30 17:16                   ` unsupported packages area in the Emacs repo Jonas Bernoulli
2010-01-01 19:21                     ` Tom Tromey
2009-12-29  5:22         ` Autoload from a web page? Richard Stallman
2009-12-29  5:29           ` Lennart Borgman
2010-01-02 15:45             ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-04  2:26               ` Lennart Borgman
2010-01-04 16:23                 ` Richard Stallman
2009-12-29 17:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-12-30 16:30   ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-12-30 16:58     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-12-30 17:08       ` Lennart Borgman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-01-10 22:06 Integrating package.el MON KEY

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