From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#6774: Cut and paste with C-w/mouse-2 not working? Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 09:46:14 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4C55EF50.3080100@alice.it> <4C5645A1.7000500@harpegolden.net> <87y6coby49.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4C572AE6.7070104@harpegolden.net> <87wrs8ohnp.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4C573A2A.3030007@harpegolden.net> <8762zphkaw.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4C5B4E28.4090808@harpegolden.net> <87fwyr3glm.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4C5C7915.7080407@harpegolden.net> <87hbj6jj7o.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4C5DE6C7.5080706@harpegolden.net> <87vd7kcx52.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4C6038B9.1090508@swipnet.se> <4C615BB9.8030905@swipnet.se> <4C61938B.5080302@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281539326 14022 80.91.229.12 (11 Aug 2010 15:08:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:08:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , 6774@debbugs.gnu.org, Angelo Graziosi To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 11 17:08:44 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OjCv3-0007Ce-5e for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:08:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40522 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OjCv2-0006u5-GP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:08:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=59506 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OjCuv-0006tB-Ah for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:08:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OjCut-0000IN-Kq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:08:32 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:34602) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OjCut-0000IA-JO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:08:31 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OjCtS-0004GO-EE; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:07:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:07:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6774 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 6774-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6774.128153920716382 (code B ref 6774); Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:07:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 6774) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Aug 2010 15:06:47 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OjCtC-0004GB-JT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:06:46 -0400 Original-Received: from impaqm1.telefonica.net ([213.4.138.1]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OjCt9-0004G4-Ud for 6774@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:06:44 -0400 Original-Received: from IMPmailhost2.adm.correo ([10.20.102.39]) by IMPaqm1.telefonica.net with bizsmtp id t1hM1e0080r0BT60137K0V; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:07:19 +0200 Original-Received: from ceviche.home ([83.40.4.203]) by IMPmailhost2.adm.correo with BIZ IMP id t37J1e00D4NokFF1i37KwW; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:07:19 +0200 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-TE-authinfo: authemail="monnier$movistar.es" |auth_email="monnier@movistar.es" X-TE-AcuTerraCos: auth_cuTerraCos="cosuitnetc01" Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 6142A660F0; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:07:18 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <4C61938B.5080302@swipnet.se> ("Jan \=\?iso-8859-1\?Q\?Dj\=E4rv\=22\?\= \=\?iso-8859-1\?Q\?'s\?\= message of "Tue, 10 Aug 2010 19:59:39 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:07:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:39425 Archived-At: >> We don't have to treat shift-selection in the same way that we treat >> C-SPC C-f. > No, but wouldn't that be confusing? It's been that way in Emacs for a while and I can't remember any bug-report about it, so it doesn't seem like it's a real problem. > Why not treat selection the same regardless of how it was made? Is it > for backwards compability? Consistency is a good property, indeed. It's not always the most important one, tho. Backward compatibility is not the issue here, I think. The issue is "how do we implement it", AFAICT. > In that case the selection would be empty, one should not take ownership of > PRIMARY in that case. So the C-f (or any other movement) would cause the selection of PRIMARY? That would have to be performed in some kind of post-command-hook, which is undesirable. Stefan