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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: "Jan Djärv" <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>
Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, 6774@debbugs.gnu.org, angelo.graziosi@alice.it
Subject: bug#6774: Cut and paste with C-w/mouse-2 not working?
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:38:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvlj8abyem.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C642B3C.9000800@swipnet.se> ("Jan Djärv"'s message of "Thu, 12 Aug 2010 19:11:24 +0200")

>> I'm more worried about the semantics than about the performance impact.
>> Doing the "set PRIMARY" from C-w and friends is much easier and robust.
> How so?  Just moving the cursor because of a C-f involves a lot more X calls
> that taking ownership of the PRIMARY selection.  I don't understand how
> robustness is affected.

The issue with robustness (when talking about post-command-hook) doesn't
have much to do with heavy X calls (or performance), unless of course
those calls can hang.

The issue of robustness is that post-command-hook is not always run when
you want or need it.  E.g. you may want to run your hook if point is
moved by a process-filter (or you may want to run that hook when the
user is queried via y-or-n-p), but post-command-hook is not involved
there.  And OTOH post-command-hook may very well be run in the middle of
a command (if it reads from the minibuffer, for example).
These corner cases make post-command-hook brittle.

I think that for select-active-region to work the way you seem to want
it to work (i.e. auto-select as soon as the region is active and
non-empty), the "right hook" to use would be something like
a redisplay-hook (i.e. an active region is selected if/when it gets
displayed).  I would welcome such a hook, BTW, especially if it gets run
*before* redisplay.  Could be useful for reveal-mode and maybe also to
move the region-face handling to Elisp.


        Stefan





  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-13 10:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-01 22:04 bug#6774: Cut and paste with C-w/mouse-2 not working? Angelo Graziosi
2010-08-02  4:12 ` David De La Harpe Golden
     [not found]   ` <4C56C8F0.2010104@alice.it>
2010-08-02 14:52     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-02 19:41   ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-02 20:30     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-02 20:33       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-02 20:53       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-02 20:59       ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-02 21:35         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-02 22:26           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-05  2:20           ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-05 23:50             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-06  7:43               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-06  9:13                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-06 10:50                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-06 12:21                     ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-06 13:17                       ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-06 20:23                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-06 20:17                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-06 15:28               ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-06 21:05                 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-07 19:50                   ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-07 23:05                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-09  2:55                       ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-09 11:43                         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-09 17:19                           ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-10  7:29                             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-10 14:01                               ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-10 15:54                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-10 17:59                                   ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-11  7:46                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-11 16:06                                       ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-11 20:17                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-11 21:26                                           ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-11 21:32                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-12  3:54                                       ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-12  7:43                                         ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-12  7:51                                           ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-12  8:29                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-12 12:14                                           ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-12 16:09                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-12 17:11                                               ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-13 10:38                                                 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2010-08-13 11:29                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-13  6:18                                               ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-13 10:40                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-16  8:16                                                   ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-16  8:51                                                     ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-17  1:44                                                       ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-17  5:52                                                         ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-17  7:17                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-17  8:24                                                             ` Jan Djärv
2010-08-17 10:26                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-17 11:43                                                           ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-17 12:14                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-17 12:57                                                               ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-18  7:24                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-17 20:59                                                               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-18  7:25                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-07 23:08                     ` Angelo Graziosi
     [not found]       ` <mailman.23.1280783288.5118.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2010-08-03 14:34         ` Miles Bader
2010-08-03 15:15           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-03 15:31             ` Miles Bader
2010-08-03 15:45               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-03 16:02                 ` Miles Bader
2010-08-04 18:02                   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-04 18:25                     ` Drew Adams
2010-08-04 21:10                       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-08-04 21:36                         ` Drew Adams
2010-08-05  0:17                           ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-05  0:24                             ` Drew Adams
2010-08-05  0:33                               ` Chong Yidong
2010-08-05  0:40                                 ` Drew Adams
2010-08-02 13:33 ` Angelo Graziosi

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