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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: 'Ulrich Mueller' <ulm@gentoo.org>,
	Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated]
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 09:05:46 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvlip2o4vi.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F18A26A.1020402@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Thu, 19 Jan 2012 15:08:26 -0800")

Paul said:
> For user interfaces it would be better if Emacs quoted “like this” or
> ‘like this’ (i.e., using directed quote marks) in the typical case
> where these quote marks are supported.

I actually much prefer symmetry, the way it was with pre-unicode
X fonts.  E.g. ‛myfoo’.

> One way to address this would be to prefer directed
> quote marks within the Emacs source code; the surrounding
> technology should recognize these quotes and do the right
> thing when displaying diagnostics on ASCII-only platforms.

One other problem (besides display) with directed quote marks is that
they're not as easy/convenient to type.

Eli wrote:
> Before we go that way, we will need to make sure the closing quote
> mark behaves like ' does, wrt syntax (and thus word-level cursor
> movement commands).  Currently it doesn't.

While we'd probably want to fine tune this part, I don't think it's
a serious problem.  After all, the syntax of ' already varies depending
on the major mode, so it's already not always doing the right thing
(and I regularly bump into such problems where C-h f doesn't properly
get the function name from the text around point because of that), and
changing to directed quote marks could actually help with this problem.


        Stefan



  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-01-20 14:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-18 15:12 TUTORIAL.de updated Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-19  9:09 ` Martin
2012-01-19  9:37   ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-19 12:03     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-19 13:02       ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-19 14:55         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-19 16:24           ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-19 17:15         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-20  5:00           ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-20  6:54             ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-19 15:52 ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-01-19 16:20   ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-19 16:41   ` quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated] Glenn Morris
2012-01-19 17:22     ` Drew Adams
2012-01-19 23:08       ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-20  3:02         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-20  6:23           ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-20  6:48         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-20  7:49         ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-01-20  8:45           ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-20  9:24             ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-20 22:17               ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-21  8:59                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-01-21 10:29                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-21 11:12                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-01-21 11:16                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-21 12:52                         ` Andreas Schwab
2012-01-22  3:27                           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2012-01-22  3:32                             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2012-01-22  6:30                   ` Richard Stallman
2012-01-22  8:00                   ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-22 10:22                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-01-22 13:06                       ` James Cloos
2012-01-21  9:10                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-22  6:30                   ` Richard Stallman
2012-01-22  8:18                     ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-22  9:36                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-22 10:24                         ` Teemu Likonen
2012-01-22 10:54                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-22 10:54                         ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-22 11:56                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-01-22 20:35                             ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-22 15:35                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-22 16:33                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-01-23  7:04                       ` Richard Stallman
2012-01-20 12:13             ` quotation marks Ulrich Mueller
2012-01-20 12:44               ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-20 15:51                 ` Drew Adams
2012-01-20 18:40                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-20 12:01           ` quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated] James Cloos
2012-01-22 15:03             ` Richard Stallman
2012-01-20 14:05         ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2012-01-20 22:34           ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-21  1:13             ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-21  1:26               ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-21  6:10                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-21  8:37                   ` Andreas Schwab
2012-01-21 18:13                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-21 19:58                       ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-21 17:17                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-21 17:19                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-19 18:14   ` TUTORIAL.de updated Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-19 18:50     ` quotation marks (was: Re: TUTORIAL.de updated) Ulrich Mueller
2012-01-19 21:45       ` Eli Zaretskii

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