From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12911: 24.3.50; let users decide where (& perhaps whether) `emacs_backtrace.txt' files are written Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:52:43 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83wqxk3d1z.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1353289992 31873 80.91.229.3 (19 Nov 2012 01:53:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 01:53:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 12911@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 19 02:53:23 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TaGY4-0001xy-8P for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 02:53:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36839 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TaGXt-0000B2-U7 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:53:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59087) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TaGXp-00009O-Dc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:53:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TaGXm-0005wT-9D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:53:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:43535) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TaGXm-0005wP-5s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:53:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TaGYk-0005gI-Fj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:54:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 01:54:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12911 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 12911-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12911.135329002721817 (code B ref 12911); Mon, 19 Nov 2012 01:54:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12911) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Nov 2012 01:53:47 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53786 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TaGYU-0005fq-90 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:53:47 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:12172) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TaGYT-0005fj-1V for 12911@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:53:45 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0FAG6Zu09sr+ZY/2dsb2JhbABEsEiDSYEIghUBAQQBViMFCws0BwsUGA0kiBwFugmQRAOIQpV3hHqBWIMH X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="207920477" Original-Received: from 108-175-230-88.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([108.175.230.88]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 18 Nov 2012 20:52:43 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 5F6AE597C1; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:52:43 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <83wqxk3d1z.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 17 Nov 2012 09:26:32 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:67149 Archived-At: >> > If such user control is not possible, then please confine such files to >> > somewhere under .emacs.d or some other "hidden" directory that is >> Agreed: writing the file into ~/.emacs.d makes a lot more sense. > I agree, but we need to decide what to do if this directory is remote, > because invoking file handlers in this situation is not possible. The file name should be passed straight to the OS without going through file-name-handlers. If the OS thinks the directory doesn't exit: no big deal! > Also, on Unix, the information is under the home directory, and the > Unix builds don't themselves create any files, but rather reuse > system-wide settings (which AFAIU aren't settable by users). So I'm > unsure what this means for platforms other than Windows. No need to change anything on platforms where stderr works. Stefan