From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Unfreezing the display during auto-repeated scrolling. Simpler approach.
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 23:06:09 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvlhnxkl12.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141030220919.GB2721@acm.acm> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Thu, 30 Oct 2014 22:09:19 +0000")
> Who's going to decide when a "forced" display is to take place?
That's the question, indeed. Maybe we could simply move the
`input-pending' test so it's done before running the command. I.e. if
there was no input pending when the command started, then don't skip
the redisplay.
For short-running commands, this will make no difference (since the
probability that input arrives right during its execution is small), but
and for long-running commands it may force redisplay even though there's
input pending, but in that case the proportion of time spent in
redisplay is smaller since the command's runtime is long.
> So maybe a timer (?0.2s) could be inserted into the command loop, such
> that if Emacs has been processing commands for that long since the last
> redisplay, redisplay will be done in preference to processing the next
> command.
That's also an option, indeed. I don't like the sound of a preset
duration between redisplays, tho. I'd rather measure the average
redisplay time and then use a multiple of that.
> That's not quite so clear when it's font-locking which is taking the
> time, since it happens both in command processing and display.
Yes, reality is more complex, of course. Hard to tell what will really
work without an actual experiment.
> Coming back to scrolling through xdisp.c, merely forcing a redisplay from
> time to time isn't going to help the slowness of the scrolling. Either
> eliminating most of the fontification or speeding it up radically (as Eli
> would prefer) is necessary.
Your experience has shown that jit-lock-defer-if-input-pending does let
Emacs keep up (in the sense that Emacs comes back to life when you
release the key), so I presume we'd use that, and combine it with
an occasional forced redisplay.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-10-31 3:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-10-19 14:17 Aborting display. Is this possible? Alan Mackenzie
2014-10-19 14:32 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-19 14:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-19 14:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-19 15:42 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-10-19 18:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-20 11:09 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-10-20 11:30 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-20 12:00 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-10-20 15:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-20 15:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-20 16:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-20 17:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-20 17:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-20 18:57 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-10-20 19:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-20 21:08 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-10-21 8:09 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-21 10:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-10-21 11:04 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-21 14:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-21 14:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-21 15:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-21 16:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-22 18:28 ` Stephen Leake
2014-10-22 20:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-21 17:14 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-10-21 18:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-21 18:38 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-10-21 18:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-21 19:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-26 12:43 ` Unfreezing the display during auto-repeated scrolling. [ Was: Aborting display. Is this possible? ] Alan Mackenzie
2014-10-26 16:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-26 20:03 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-10-26 20:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-26 20:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-26 22:15 ` Unfreezing the display during auto-repeated scrolling Alan Mackenzie
2014-10-27 1:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-27 14:28 ` Unfreezing the display during auto-repeated scrolling. Simpler approach Alan Mackenzie
2014-10-27 16:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-27 19:13 ` David Engster
2014-10-27 19:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-27 19:36 ` David Engster
2014-10-27 19:38 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-10-27 21:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-28 18:10 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-10-29 0:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-29 14:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-29 14:52 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-10-29 15:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-29 16:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-29 21:25 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-10-30 1:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-30 22:09 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-10-31 3:06 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2014-10-31 7:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-31 14:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-21 15:44 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-23 9:51 ` Tassilo Horn
2014-11-23 10:40 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-23 19:44 ` Tassilo Horn
2014-11-23 22:04 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-24 11:34 ` Tassilo Horn
2014-11-24 11:53 ` David Kastrup
2014-11-24 16:00 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-24 14:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-24 16:08 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-24 17:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-27 3:36 ` Unfreezing the display during auto-repeated scrolling Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-27 10:05 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-10-27 16:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-27 22:46 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-10-28 0:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-27 3:33 ` Unfreezing the display during auto-repeated scrolling. [ Was: Aborting display. Is this possible? ] Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-21 18:01 ` Aborting display. Is this possible? Stefan Monnier
2014-10-21 15:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-21 17:00 ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2014-10-21 18:25 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-10-20 1:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-20 2:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
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