From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Where is Emacs Lisp taught ? Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 22:08:12 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5B8BFDC9-A07B-48FE-8C97-1BB0B84E5577@gmail.com> <865zxruycx.fsf@zoho.com> <875zxr7zke.fsf@portable.galex-713.eu> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1542251221 14602 195.159.176.226 (15 Nov 2018 03:07:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 03:07:01 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 15 04:06:57 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gN7za-0003ba-9c for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 04:06:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35794 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gN81g-0006cX-K4 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2018 22:09:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37683) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gN81H-0006aQ-RW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2018 22:08:40 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gN817-0003Ry-St for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2018 22:08:36 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=33242 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gN815-0003Q7-Sl for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2018 22:08:28 -0500 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gN7ys-0002iw-It for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2018 04:06:10 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 12 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:zidDti3g9anjxE9ZGkfyiiJuQMw= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:118669 Archived-At: > Programming editor commands has the additional advantage that a program need > not be very large to be tangibly useful in editing. A first project can be > very simple. One can thus slide very smoothly from using the editor to edit > into learning to program with it. Of course, after 30 years of development, most of the things a beginner will want has already been coded up, so the beginner's reaction nowadays is to look for a package which provides the thing he's longing for. Missing this opportunity to learn to hack along the way. Stefan