From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: improvements to the "lossage buffer" Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 19:08:22 -0400 Message-ID: References: <864l335dyk.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="179810"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 31 01:08:57 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hsbEm-000kcZ-3z for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Jul 2019 01:08:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36738 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hsbEj-0000fd-Ns for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2019 19:08:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40092) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hsbEO-0000cT-Cy for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2019 19:08:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hsbEN-0000uc-DZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2019 19:08:32 -0400 Original-Received: from 195-159-176-226.customer.powertech.no ([195.159.176.226]:36848 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hsbEN-0000sw-5j for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2019 19:08:31 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hsbEL-000kCw-QU for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Jul 2019 01:08:29 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Cancel-Lock: sha1:NcVPoV3O9wM6/ct7XJbZFAmnmkc= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:121274 Archived-At: > To make it even clearer, why don't you consider > putting the command name in a column of its > own? I'm sure the maintainers would be happy to get a patch for that ;-) Note that occasionally there can be a very long sequence of events leading to a command, so you'd want to make sure that such an occurrence doesn't force the first column to be insanely wide. > Also, isn't, e.g. M-o more used than > "ESC o", both in speech/writing _and_ in code - `M-o` and `ESC o` aren't the same events, although usually they lead to the same behavior. `view-lossage` is specifically useful in order to see the "raw" events, for those cases where the difference between `ESC o` and `M-o` might be important, so no I think that would be a bad idea. Stefan