From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master a4144af 1/2: Prefer ~/.config/emacs to ~/.emacs.d if neither exists
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2019 09:05:09 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvlfv8i37s.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44c7794c-29a7-65be-0838-f84807eba9bc@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Sat, 31 Aug 2019 23:25:26 -0700")
> (1) only ~/.config/emacs (the new-convention directory) is present, where
> Emacs obviously should use that;
>
> (2) only ~/.emacs.d (the old-convention directory) is present, where Emacs
> obviously should use that;
Your terminology presumes the conclusion ;-)
I'd call them differently: There's the XDG-convention and then there's
the native-convention.
> (3) both directories are present, where I recall that we discussed that
> Emacs should use the new-convention directory; and
FWIW, I argued for the other choice but as long as ~/.config/emacs is
never automatically created, it's probably OK.
Basically the argument is "if the user consciously chose to use the
weird XDG setup, then let's obey those wishes".
> (4) neither directory is present, which we did not discuss explicitly but
> I reasoned by analogy with (3) that Emacs should also prefer the new
> convention when either the old or the new will do.
I don't think (3) and (4) need to be linked.
Making (3) prefer ~/.config/emacs basically means we're on the path to
deprecating ~/.emacs.d. I don't think I'm ready for that.
BTW, ~/.config/emacs/init.el seems to be an exception in the XDG space
because in my experience all those ~/.config files are normally expected
to be manipulated via GUI options, rather than by editing them directly.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-09-01 13:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-08-30 12:34 [Emacs-diffs] master a4144af 1/2: Prefer ~/.config/emacs to ~/.emacs.d if neither exists Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-30 14:20 ` Yuri D'Elia
2019-08-30 14:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-01 6:25 ` Paul Eggert
2019-09-01 13:05 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2019-09-01 13:44 ` Teemu Likonen
2019-09-01 13:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-02 19:03 ` Paul Eggert
[not found] <20190830072451.9819.83340@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
[not found] ` <20190830072452.ACB48210EC@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2019-08-30 14:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-08-30 15:20 ` Kaushal Modi
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