From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A project-files implementation for Git projects Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 13:09:51 -0400 Message-ID: References: <8736h9rdc4.fsf@gnu.org> <87tv9kz2x6.fsf@gnu.org> <87a7bbjdwe.fsf@gnu.org> <87a7ba8uvx.fsf@gnu.org> <87pnk2zvvy.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgows6wy.fsf@gnu.org> <87ef0dy18z.fsf@gnu.org> <87impk675h.fsf@gnu.org> <874l13h30l.fsf@gnu.org> <7386ef98-c151-e1ce-23fa-11470a16f0d3@yandex.ru> <87h84x1zoa.fsf@gnu.org> <4be972f9-45a3-f2aa-f532-d7b8fbe054fd@yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="44783"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 30 19:10:08 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iEzBX-000BXI-Km for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 19:10:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55214 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iEzBV-0000et-P0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 13:10:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46930) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iEzBO-0000eR-Jd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 13:09:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iEzBN-00052N-5O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 13:09:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:16938) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iEzBM-000521-VH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 13:09:57 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 3D9C381252; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 13:09:55 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 91DFD8105D; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 13:09:53 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1569863393; bh=Gj9HZRN+2aLcUyaSSVrohY32IGe8ZTsHYOL0SIFiNj4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=Eu3Ytfppbds1MpWnZSlLDrnn3T/6l64eRWaskTwiAfQYthKWN3wf8yxhpREwx7nxn M/9wYEXFBOetZt83XvpmSZnLNLOuS1vKBSU8AqSJIzA5UWLzL95r/pYMq4awElTcL6 HX2t/2btQZmnxLbp1tO5b9o7k3oEhDRWwfVKAAfyabtd9EI88zbNHZblvqlwqMQCsD W3cumRLSAyq62fWkbkSpIpqiccwuAiZOujg9AjjDcZwLlsg3yRR8Yk+xNYZDzuDGYz G3xTDk08xSVMfGH3bYO3hdYotFBbhDJRMQ+sqquuKgC9k/7tuMsv0Wbr+SvNgUIaPu etlUjL0AgF0nw== Original-Received: from lechazo (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5C3DC12064D; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 13:09:53 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Mon, 30 Sep 2019 09:50:12 +0300") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 132.204.25.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:240414 Archived-At: >> FWIW, I simply cannot see what could be the advantage of not going >> through `vc-call-backend`. > Two reasons. None of them insurmountable, but: > 1. Not having to worry about changing the API to accommodate future needs. I think we should feel free to change this "API" at will. > 2. Very uneven backend capabilities, and the necessity to set up > fallbacks. As you can see, even now Git requires a modern-enough version to > support EXTRA-IGNORES. And, well, project--files-in-directory is private, at > least for now. These seem to affect the code regardless of whether it goes through vc-call-backend or not. Stefan