From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: evaluating numbers Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2019 11:03:35 -0500 Message-ID: References: <875zjw2emg.fsf@gmx.net> <618B38D9-CD34-4200-8CA1-1A6B0922A83A@traduction-libre.org> <871ruk2d3f.fsf@gmx.net> <3C929D7B-1C10-4713-9EDA-55C80FC36AD8@traduction-libre.org> <835zjvg385.fsf@gnu.org> <83sgmyd6rw.fsf@gnu.org> <835zjucwbz.fsf@gnu.org> <628A3663-BDD3-47C5-B4F4-E260FD900691@traduction-libre.org> <83o8xla50f.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="124855"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Emacs development discussions To: Jean-Christophe Helary Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 09 17:03:48 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iTTDH-000WJh-Lg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Nov 2019 17:03:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37474 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iTTDG-0007PK-A7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Nov 2019 11:03:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50528) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iTTDA-0007LP-2N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Nov 2019 11:03:41 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iTTD8-00033v-Qm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Nov 2019 11:03:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:42571) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iTTD8-00033R-MS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Nov 2019 11:03:38 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 2BE8C811C0; Sat, 9 Nov 2019 11:03:38 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id DE8ED80C84; Sat, 9 Nov 2019 11:03:36 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1573315416; bh=Q/xx1aaM4hyffDFIv+cGihc1fKRmiRjS2WBOfmcei70=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=IT0chF0xcx3PLayuhzfLfYCAIGG8iXQUt5fWrR47PUfC/bbgpig3l08ZU8WckID6W 5fgCqPhinPhR15CEGWXi/5sBUMtOKSJA68r/SQNOyJH89nNsDwHvY77gswX+Pv05b5 kCzW6hXmXRSLm4FZIApl/omPu8I0Rj3VvTvwp+Trghr8MCNYa7PQRepPzOGZdTsGWx V10t21gGGkATwoz6MwyzpbfgGN6RJZa7yNb8Hf34u18cVWJfEuJ1CTsG5N+vR3wSsc 6anMotkm1osmnG8hIlMOj/swEQNkSCo1IzP4bsdzTDfgMLZHJ5MgxPm5e51qHK3Bqj RKli4+HTj8PKw== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [216.154.47.134]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A13FF12062C; Sat, 9 Nov 2019 11:03:36 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Jean-Christophe Helary's message of "Sat, 9 Nov 2019 20:18:58 +0900") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 132.204.25.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:242046 Archived-At: >> Characters are just integers in Emacs. > I know that. You're not really answering the above question. When people > expect a character to be returned, they expect a character and not > a code point. Emacs can't know what the user expects. > How useful is: > (decode-char 'emacs 345) > 345 (#o531, #x159) And the code that displays "345 (#o531, #x159)" doesn't know that this 345 is coming out of a function which is expected to return characters. All it knows is that it has to print the integer 345. Stefan