From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Relevance of `baud-rate' in the 2020s? Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 14:32:38 -0400 Message-ID: References: <833625l9wv.fsf@gnu.org> <83v9f0j00x.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32770"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: stefan@marxist.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 23 20:33:26 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kW1sT-0008Rh-PY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 20:33:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42006 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kW1sS-0006Hy-SS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 14:33:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49244) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kW1ro-0005k0-Sn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 14:32:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:9381) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kW1rm-0000xA-KK; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 14:32:44 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 266C7440690; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 14:32:41 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id C48A44405E2; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 14:32:39 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1603477959; bh=AQm71nIdaobIQUAOdXUJRsmKloUmNN7NKFlRYdTW0Vc=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=PXhoFsLN8H1/GOf2TxUg02pZ0MUTb8z5jSlyKWL5ozxRrMCsb02pGt9Ox21JowlRS 98TnluL5sWyUc7v4IKPexzmsk9vwVIzjqc5XvdWss8JwcQ0PlV+gtTQ9ot4zCsvDu+ AIy7ifLO/gvm1VlgGDvjE8HWf0d4TtBaF5xbO6Qdpfyy64f1KNvTGrtSgh199WamdV neywtz2mSfjlUX8/4oPZ8xCerV72hXvcjiUjkIXcSPHNp9+lBR0KddCLZ8Pi4lLvR7 Xlhk3y9mBANtK4z0o4m3mfB1JjV0y9JTg83LcCnwz42YkN1hxWVSk6BvJIL3opBIDb gBVGfpywhOSAw== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [157.52.9.240]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6C71D1201B9; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 14:32:39 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83v9f0j00x.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 23 Oct 2020 20:59:58 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/23 10:33:03 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258385 Archived-At: >> > In my remote corner of the world, I sometimes have periods of time >> > that Internet crawls at 3KB/sec. >> That sounds equivalent to the default value of `baud-rate` (19200). > No, because when this happens, packets get lost. Otherwise, how could > a fast connection suddenly become so slow? Right, the overall bandwidth is comparable but not the burstiness. >> > If I need to use Emacs on a remote machine during that time, this >> > "obsolete" mode is very useful, because SSH sends more than just the >> > characters I type. >> What do you mean by "mode", exactly? >> Do you mean you (setq baud-rate 2400)? > No, I mean isearch-slow-terminal-mode. So you set `isearch-slow-terminal-mode` manually? What do you think of removing `baud-rate` and replacing it with a `low-bandwidth-mode` global minor mode? Stefan