From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Question about ELPA - package eev not updated from upstream Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2022 23:10:39 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87sfkb1i8l.fsf@sperrhaken.name> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20814"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:Z+a7zm7z0aP4E87y6b4Bqr3lxY8= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 29 05:11:45 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1odjxf-0005Hr-Mh for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2022 05:11:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57368 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1odjxe-00033b-6f for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2022 23:11:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52488) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1odjwp-00033E-5D for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2022 23:10:51 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:36442) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1odjwm-0000al-P1 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2022 23:10:50 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1odjwj-00049d-Gr for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2022 05:10:45 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:139672 Archived-At: Felix Dietrich [2022-09-28 20:11:54] wrote: > Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor > writes: >> Eduardo Ochs [2022-09-25 21:45:04] wrote: >> >>> usually when I update the file eev.el in the git repository of eev >>> ELPA notices that, and it updates the version of eev in ELPA in at >>> most 24 hours... but this time this didn't happen. >>> >>> Should I look for error messages? Where? >> >> `help-gnu-emacs` is a mailing-list for Emacs users, who can't really >> help you. > > The home page of states: > > #+begin_quote > - If you need help, you could try the help-gnu-emacs mailing list. > - For general inquiries, please contact the emacs-devel mailing list. > #+end_quote > > I am not sure how “help” and “general inquiries” are delineated. > Anyway, is this information not correct? Its neither incorrect nor very precise, indeed. `help-gnu-emacs` is a mailing list where Emacs *users* are expected to lurk and help each other. `emacs-devel` is where Emacs developers are expected to be found. When your problem can/should be solved by editing your init file and/or installing packages, `help-gnu-emacs` is the right place. When your problem can be fixed only by changing Emacs itself or some part of Emacs's infrastructure, `emacs-devel` (or `bug-gnu-emacs`) is the right place. Stefan