From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#59882: Multiple versions of Org in load-path problem Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2022 09:25:17 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87tu27jq7h.fsf@localhost> <87k032nyok.fsf@localhost> <39a5810d-75bc-4ddb-8722-703f762ed4de@app.fastmail.com> <835yel11x8.fsf@gnu.org> <87edt2qpoa.fsf@localhost> <83359innsp.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34374"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: dsmasterson@gmail.com, Ihor Radchenko , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, michel@schi.nz, 59882@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 14 15:53:44 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p5T8h-0008kK-VC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 15:53:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p5Shx-0001fM-4m; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 09:26:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p5Shv-0001eb-Bj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 09:26:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p5Shv-0007P5-2m for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 09:26:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p5Shu-0001Eo-IO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 09:26:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2022 14:26:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 59882 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 59882-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B59882.16710279274746 (code B ref 59882); Wed, 14 Dec 2022 14:26:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 59882) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Dec 2022 14:25:27 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39565 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p5ShL-0001EU-B6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 09:25:27 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:29079) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p5ShJ-0001EO-6f for 59882@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 09:25:25 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id E3C9C440C61; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 09:25:19 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 6F014440989; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 09:25:18 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1671027918; bh=/96otOORWWLRbV9VU7Csfw0P98buPkk1QKic9zzYEQE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=HTbQkdBz7fGzZQKgeB/sY/37VKJJVrlroT+DHhOQ82OPs7ndmiPi5DBT6h6SUvh79 rvMxgj60dr6YQqerebMOMXlNgYsF5T9O9y2JO17kTEPu/m6QhUjqYlk90sKIS9ZnGZ dyoLC995mYRrZs7/sqgOXCK/Y4thWIbwLZAx+iQqmbFRYv6EWcSLRhDZlROsmPu/zS Z1xfdL8hM0zOThQNKmD9sX9vi+vKUmijxurcKanBlEkgBBgUO4hyMunMd9ffPkCBHy psm66REiCM8zQRuqah4Ls56ZYiqTJGECo6yqZoT5h9PC63qUupIKW7JuYa0GY5cDkh ascn7q6Xtg/3Q== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [45.72.193.52]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 31DBE1202FF; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 09:25:18 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <83359innsp.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 14 Dec 2022 14:59:50 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:250949 Archived-At: >> On a related note, is it normal that package like org-mouse.el gets >> loaded upon calling C-h f org-mouse- completion prompt? Yes. See `help-enable-completion-autoload`. >> I am asking because org-mouse.el advises some functions and its loading >> may cause unexpected consequences. See >> https://orgmode.org/list/87r0x6sju1.fsf@fastmail.fm > I think org-mouse.el should be fixed not to cause such effects just by > loading it. It should do that only when it is actually used. Exactly. Merely loading a file should not affect Emacs's behavior in any significant way. Stefan