From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#63916: 30.0.50; use-package: changes do not propagate to elpa-devel Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2023 11:55:59 -0400 Message-ID: References: <4b1ff1660351348f3d5f1bc848965d59@orthen.net> <874jnf3d0c.fsf@posteo.net> <87wn0a2sp8.fsf@posteo.net> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5653"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Benjamin Orthen , 63916@debbugs.gnu.org To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 11 17:57:18 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q8NRN-0001I1-SR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 11 Jun 2023 17:57:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q8NRA-0005QV-HC; Sun, 11 Jun 2023 11:57:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q8NR9-0005QJ-7z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jun 2023 11:57:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q8NR8-0008Tf-VF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jun 2023 11:57:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q8NR8-0007ZV-I6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jun 2023 11:57:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2023 15:57:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 63916 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 63916-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B63916.168649896929043 (code B ref 63916); Sun, 11 Jun 2023 15:57:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 63916) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jun 2023 15:56:09 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37635 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q8NQH-0007YN-4a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jun 2023 11:56:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:20834) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q8NQF-0007YA-Da for 63916@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jun 2023 11:56:07 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 1CB84441071; Sun, 11 Jun 2023 11:56:02 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id CE9C8440FA7; Sun, 11 Jun 2023 11:56:00 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1686498960; bh=VfB7BNPCMXwx7oGxn5CGjREhDYmCFIFOutN3aHXLPWg=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=D2qwK4urf4NEo+bJpt2GdBEnxy8s19EBMI5ks8G9Qj1OZlmsCmTD5m+thF80EwS7B 4TqWVswAGz/JndJW8KTK20F54O8jctF+xVMUcQleEYXffPNws0sp312ib9B1NOrqtn f5AQaNIOaof6tdCMsiy4Wxjv47rehhuVabUP5cHUv64QRD/iZGI7dwned48yLf8zyX Dufh0l9O3RTrIoHmMF2GxWGWDGCAAfmH4b52aFNOm5Ss3naylz/O+JT22Wgk4l1Njw RTjAOPgrDwXM1vIrqGk8BYtiHXoiXeucOAZRLunD9hE+U6yLzTGs4Nrl2HGSH25q3s Pxm43Rsc+Cgng== Original-Received: from pastel (76-10-180-239.dsl.teksavvy.com [76.10.180.239]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A7B5A12080A; Sun, 11 Jun 2023 11:56:00 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87wn0a2sp8.fsf@posteo.net> (Philip Kaludercic's message of "Sun, 11 Jun 2023 10:34:27 +0000") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:263250 Archived-At: >> The above patch feels a bit hackish because it depends on the >> directory that happens to be current when the file is loaded. > I agree, that could be made more robust but isn't elpa-admin.el always > invoked via make? In 99% of the cases, yes, but users are free to be more creative. > Of course, that was my first idea but I wanted to find a solution that > wouldn't require every user to manually configure this, since the error > message does not make it obvious what went wrong. I agree that these kinds of problems are annoying to debug. It would be nice to offer a "debug mode" where the user can see what's going on within the sandbox. Maybe we could do that by opening an interactive shell with a message saying "this is the command that we want to run" and then let the user run that command? Stefan