From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 10:27:31 -0400 Message-ID: References: <7133BE83-064B-43A4-A193-61376605222C@dancol.org> <055E6E92-6971-409E-A106-7E0C64FEF856@dancol.org> <87bk3r22x5.fsf@yahoo.com> <746FE961-37C5-4387-8274-7D90908EE2D6@dancol.org> <8734p3219c.fsf@yahoo.com> <867cefeo1w.fsf@gnu.org> <8734p03e94.fsf@jeremybryant.net> <867cec9ccl.fsf@gnu.org> <87v81vx12n.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4314"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Daniel Colascione , Eli Zaretskii , Jeremy Bryant , acm@muc.de, stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 26 16:28:09 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sMTd1-0000ih-Rt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 16:28:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sMTcY-0003xp-KY; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 10:27:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sMTcX-0003xb-9d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 10:27:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sMTcV-0000L0-Lv; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 10:27:37 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id E894510006B; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 10:27:33 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1719412052; bh=hMepRpC0aTUktnYe0lJQ0oTDqRTf3ZucxSyrvRa9T0Y=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=Cu5F3Ht9SJE5yqxtobqcP4eEk+w0QH8vgkX4P13+jOFVMFezkxajLjaDcl8cWtI47 pRp+m87ObjPGkLm8qtQPNIlSHso/Ar8RzjZLNxG3ExrpX/jChbsTsTPTMYbqEaf9RC nLGQE/hPBC8OYZ9rGPlFSs36Bk7WkvvHf0tuLEGVjjMU2j1zRAhY3OLJu3CkI7/cTc ua3sGe5e5Y594/aHj5li/NeGDtP2t/9zDgGDCHqq3Bk4PY9Xbf3jBEcJUX8mU1VFNV fZDf5Y279dzVnl0z25hl7FFfZp1QQzpZB0+NUIlO53N6kH5ZHtRio8XpnJC2NqJ9G3 273vUW9kQInOg== Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 87430100042; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 10:27:32 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [24.140.236.196]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4454E1202FC; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 10:27:32 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87v81vx12n.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Wed, 26 Jun 2024 21:53:20 +0800") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:320696 Archived-At: > C-x 4 is not for window management commands, but for commands that > influence which window the results of a future command are to be > displayed in, and it has been so for a substantial period, so that users > won't bat an eyelid before creating bindings keeping to this pattern. > As such, it is perfectly logical to bind, say, ffap-other-window, in > this keymap, but not every command that marginally relates to window > management. Since `C-x 4` is the prefix we use for "other window" prefix, what is the most natural meaning we could give to `C-x 4 `? Stefan