From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: C-o (was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove) Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2024 23:26:37 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87cynw7omw.fsf@dancol.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5851"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Daniel Colascione , Alan Mackenzie , Dmitry Gutov , Stefan Kangas , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 02 05:27:13 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sOUAj-0001LF-1H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 02 Jul 2024 05:27:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sOUAI-0002QL-HQ; Mon, 01 Jul 2024 23:26:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sOUAG-0002Q3-QA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jul 2024 23:26:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sOUAF-0000oR-26 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jul 2024 23:26:44 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 05513442E74; Mon, 1 Jul 2024 23:26:41 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1719890799; bh=np5ZVag5KDx+IU4VhAj+QszKN7ZdW+UcsImsL1nmOv4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=Dl5fGzMqX//sD+xyXakh1lGZKjvcZdeIrc58KfesgjPB19YX6clD3K+d8AEf4ZHI1 ioLmbSht7Gt3iohYG7+9YViB1mqUWzZ/v/rxqpLxF4xCEayh58ne65gdCLnN45YgYU 9iyat9z1IVK9KxNCP4JHEDHawySs0o+Csr64RRHFdc9358DnqRmJ0PAjXVIsKDcd7A zuXK7USg1k9VkxqSeibKiPejUt2hLv5o/lpyh19yTaNzKdQ7Hwnea5sIR5KFf+R1os r3VUcurw8Yx+mYNZmo+JgK7a5M9oIKTn1lDl1K/3ukegEuOqywH6kF+UKKfF/0gfqm a6aEFuztj8RWQ== Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 52B46442A40; Mon, 1 Jul 2024 23:26:39 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [45.72.245.253]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 15183120909; Mon, 1 Jul 2024 23:26:39 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Po Lu's message of "Tue, 02 Jul 2024 09:00:33 +0800") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:321087 Archived-At: >> I still think we need to find a better binding for C-o, FWIW. [...] >> What do you use it for? I'm also curious to know how people use `C-o`, which I never ever use. > What do you expect? Opening a new line? Not sure what answer Daniel was looking for, but for me at least the question is about the "context" where you use `C-o`. E.g. I can see someone doing C-o foo bar but I don't see the benefit compared to foo bar RET It probably comes down to habit, but I'm hoping there's more to it than that. Stefan