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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Emacs-Devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: doc of defining minor modes
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 14:59:29 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvk68jnoyv.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DNEMKBNJBGPAOPIJOOICOEEHDGAA.drew.adams@oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 18 May 2006 11:10:15 -0700")

> If it does not already have a value when the library is loaded, then the
> library can set the (default) value to on or off, as appropriate. If on is
> inappropriate for some particular library for some reason, then its
> :init-value should be nil.

> Please provide a specific scenario of the problem you see - I'm not getting
> this.

Elisp packages may be loaded because the user specifically wants it to be
loaded, but they can also be loaded for all kinds of other
unrelated reasons.  So as a matter of principle the user-visible behavior of
Emacs should be mostly unchanged by (load <foo>).

This often means that minor modes should default to being disabled.

Not always, tho: E.g. foo-aux-mode could default to being enabled without
any harm if it only ever affects buffers in foo-mode and foo-mode can't
exist without foo-aux-mode also existing (e.g. because they're defined in the
same file of because foo.el requires `foo-aux').


        Stefan

  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-18 18:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-18 16:38 doc of defining minor modes Drew Adams
2006-05-18 17:00 ` Andreas Schwab
2006-05-18 17:22   ` Drew Adams
2006-05-18 17:47     ` David Kastrup
2006-05-18 17:55       ` Drew Adams
2006-05-18 18:03         ` David Kastrup
2006-05-18 18:10           ` Drew Adams
2006-05-18 18:59             ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2006-05-18 22:12               ` Drew Adams
2006-05-19  3:21                 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-05-18 20:38             ` David Kastrup
2006-05-18 22:11               ` Drew Adams
2006-05-18 22:36                 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-19  0:01                   ` Drew Adams
2006-05-19  0:25                     ` David Kastrup
2006-05-19  1:44                       ` Drew Adams
2006-05-19  6:20                         ` David Kastrup
2006-05-19 17:39                           ` Drew Adams
2006-05-19 15:59                         ` Drew Adams
2006-05-19 16:29                           ` David Kastrup
2006-05-19 17:45                             ` Drew Adams
2006-05-19 18:43                               ` Andreas Schwab
2006-05-19 16:43                           ` Stefan Monnier
2006-05-19 17:43                             ` Drew Adams
2006-05-19 17:52                               ` David Kastrup
2006-05-19 18:28                               ` Stefan Monnier
2006-05-19  1:49             ` Miles Bader
2006-05-18 17:07 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-18 17:55   ` Drew Adams
2006-05-19  2:05 ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-19 15:59   ` Drew Adams
2006-05-19 16:40     ` Stefan Monnier

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