From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Outline mode Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:02:57 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87odgnbr9q.fsf@earthlink.net> <87fy1zb77e.fsf@earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1188612191 1951 80.91.229.12 (1 Sep 2007 02:03:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 02:03:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: John J Foerch Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 01 04:03:10 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IRIKI-0006lw-38 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Sep 2007 04:03:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IRIKH-00005y-Ig for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:03:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IRIKE-00005i-5A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:03:02 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IRIKC-00005H-OV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:03:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IRIKC-00005D-JS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:03:00 -0400 Original-Received: from bc.sympatico.ca ([209.226.175.184] helo=tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IRIKB-0001Kl-O1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:02:59 -0400 Original-Received: from ceviche.home ([70.55.141.50]) by tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20070901020258.NGZT18413.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@ceviche.home> for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:02:58 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id D9A15B40B5; Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:02:57 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87fy1zb77e.fsf@earthlink.net> (John J. Foerch's message of "Fri\, 31 Aug 2007 19\:44\:05 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Detected-Kernel: Solaris 8 (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:77520 Archived-At: >> I don't think that's a good idea in general: it forces every entry to span >> at least two display lines: one for the heading and another for the >> ellipsis. In some contexts it might be accpetable, but definitely >> not always. >> Maybe you could make it an option. > Actually, with my patch, the ellipsis appears on the same line as the > heading. Duh, I overlooked this "detail", sorry. But then in what way does it help? You may now move the cursor to just after the ellipsis but actually be placed right after the newline (rather than at the end of the text). And if you remove the newline, you get into the undesired situation where there is no ellipsis any more to warn about the presence of invisible text. Of course I'm biased: it would break reveal-mode which I wrote and use extensively with outline-minor-mode ;-) Stefan