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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: eric@siege-engine.com
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Andreas Roehler <andreas.roehler@online.de>,
	XEmacs-Beta@xemacs.org
Subject: Re: simplifying beginning-of-defun
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 00:06:45 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvk4zjbtrg.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1254103488.6168.152.camel@projectile.siege-engine.com> (Eric M. Ludlam's message of "Sun, 27 Sep 2009 22:04:48 -0400")

>> I can't think of a reason why #3 wouldn't want to be affected by #4.
>> Note that for #2, it's not just the interactive form, since it also
>> affects #3 (e.g. mark-defun, send-defun-to-inferior-process, younameit,
>> ...).
> Hmmm.  A dilemma.  Given this C code:

I'm not sure what problem/dilemma you're alluding to.

> Of course, perhaps I am wrong in thinking that stopping on 'int' is
> preferred, but I do know it is preferred by me.  Would this make the
> CEDET behavior as found in 'senator' completely new in some way?

I guess it would, but then again I have no idea why it would matter
whether it's completely new or not (i.e. I don't understand what you're
trying to say, I guess).

>> What about programs that want to use CEDET but that also want to work
>> when CEDET is not available?  They would most likely want to use
>> beginning-of-defun.
> I had not contemplated this in the context of beginning-of-defun.
> Ideally they would not need some if statement to deal with the issue.

Exactly.

> Of course, the need here would be pretty basic stuff too if it was
> robust to the actual landing place being different for different
> situations, sort of the way narrow-to-defun might not care exactly where
> it lands, so long as it goes somewhere.

Very much so, indeed.
I'd say that pretty much all calls to beginning-of-defun(-raw) should
follow this principle.


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-28  4:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-26 17:52 simplifying beginning-of-defun Andreas Roehler
2009-09-26 21:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-27  8:10   ` Andreas Roehler
2009-09-27 18:40     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-28  6:50       ` Andreas Roehler
2009-09-28 22:46         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-29  6:53           ` Andreas Roehler
2009-09-29  8:29           ` Andreas Roehler
2009-09-27 10:26   ` Andreas Roehler
2009-09-27 11:17     ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-09-27 18:53       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-27 20:07         ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-09-27 22:52           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-28  2:04             ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-09-28  4:06               ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2009-09-28 11:20                 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-09-29  6:50               ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-09-27 19:06 ` Glenn Morris

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