From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: In emacs 23 compile-mode doesn't recognize (c)perl error messages Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 02:04:16 -0400 Organization: UseNetServer.com Message-ID: References: <6d2cb724-900e-4e8a-9145-8b271037c8e2@z24g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> <1544A0C5-7D0B-4B56-BC70-C8684173706A@Web.DE> <5397B484-241E-4DF2-AA2C-F2AA26C464E0@web.de> <79579e57-4e9e-4004-980d-760150d5b36e@j31g2000yqc.googlegroups.com> <87my397d43.fsf@kzsu.stanford.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1256887301 24763 80.91.229.12 (30 Oct 2009 07:21:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 07:21:41 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 30 08:21:34 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1N3lng-0002Q3-Iq for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:21:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57801 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1N3lng-0004XT-24 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 03:21:32 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!usenet.stanford.edu!news.glorb.com!news2.glorb.com!npeer02.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!post02.iad.highwinds-media.com!TEKSAVVY.COM-Free-a2kHrUvQQWlmc!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:56f6f+Q2wbX3gQhoKoBX7T2ShYY= Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@usenetserver.com Original-Lines: 28 Original-X-Trace: 5bb184aea81e1eed259fe13281 Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:174268 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:69351 Archived-At: > I gather that the reason we're stuck with this state of affairs is that > the emacs-devel team (including rms) isn't really interested. They like > the idea of having a tool to do higher level testing of the entire > interface, but don't see the point of lower level tests... which is to > say they'd like to solve the hardest problem first, and aren't too > likely to do this soon. That is actually not the case. It's more like we have plenty of things to do and we're waiting for someone else to setup such a testsuite. We do have a "test" subdirectory in the CVS repository, although it currently doesn't hold much. I have no experience with such test rigs, nor with any the many Emacs test frameworks, and I have time neither to review them, nor to write my own. But I would very much welcome some test framework to be installed in Emacs's CVS repository such that I can easily add tests in the "test" subdirectory for simple low-level tests. Being able to have higher-level tests would be nice as well and is indeed a hard problem in general, but it's not a prerequisite at all. Any help would be greatly welcome. E.g. help to review of the various Elisp test frameworks out there, highlighting their advantages and shortcoming (to help choose one), and then help to set it up for Emacs (e.g. adding Makefile rules to run the suite). Stefan