From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Pretest Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:27:23 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87fwjsqs9l.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87obyf44kd.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1316568454 7921 80.91.229.12 (21 Sep 2011 01:27:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 01:27:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Drew Adams , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 21 03:27:29 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R6Baz-0001bE-6f for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 03:27:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49618 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R6Bay-0007CM-7B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:27:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:50508) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R6Bav-0007C6-Fd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:27:26 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R6Bau-0004ld-6S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:27:25 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183]:52211 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R6Bau-0004lX-2R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:27:24 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAOM8eU5FpZ7x/2dsb2JhbABCp2J5gVMBAQQBVhUOEAsOJhIUGA0kiAqzI4Z9BKBRhEQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.68,414,1312171200"; d="scan'208";a="137573833" Original-Received: from 69-165-158-241.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.165.158.241]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 20 Sep 2011 21:27:23 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 2E34E58F15; Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:27:23 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87obyf44kd.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (Chong Yidong's message of "Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:27:30 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.183 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:144133 Archived-At: >> After Martin relentlessly and carefully worked out the bugs from his >> humongous, many-faceted, and detailed buffer-display changes, you >> suddenly changed it all again (recently). And during a feature >> freeze, no less. Even Martin (our resident window/buffer-display >> expert) has admitted that he does not yet understand the new code. >> Does that count as "something coming up"? > No. Just to put some argument behind it: the new code that replaces Martin's is not humongous, not many-faceted, ... instead it's a fairly small change, localized change, with a reasonably clear "backward compatibility argument". That's why we haven't seen too many bug reports since this new scheme has been installed. Sadly, it goes much less far than Martin's change, so some of the more interesting developments end up postponed to 24.2. Stefan