From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: trunk r112976: * lisp/subr.el (with-eval-after-load): New Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 10:18:22 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1371305908 25639 80.91.229.3 (15 Jun 2013 14:18:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 14:18:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel To: Xue Fuqiao Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 15 16:18:28 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UnrJE-0001GO-4P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 16:18:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39394 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UnrJD-0006mn-LZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 10:18:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56416) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UnrJA-0006mf-SD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 10:18:25 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UnrJ9-0002eT-Ux for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 10:18:24 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:16137) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UnrJ9-0002eM-R0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 10:18:23 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EABK/CFFFpZVy/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLDiYSFBgNJIgeBsEtkQoDpHqBXoMT X-IPAS-Result: Av4EABK/CFFFpZVy/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLDiYSFBgNJIgeBsEtkQoDpHqBXoMT X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="16458653" Original-Received: from 69-165-149-114.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.165.149.114]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 15 Jun 2013 10:18:17 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id A78DB62CC8; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 10:18:22 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Xue Fuqiao's message of "Sat, 15 Jun 2013 11:23:44 +0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.182 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:160449 Archived-At: > I think loading.texi needs some further changes. The last paragraph > ("Normally, well-designed Lisp programs should not use > `eval-after-load'...") is superfluous. My reasons: > 1. `eval-after-load' isn't documented any more. This paragraph is > somewhat suprising to readers who did not know this function before; The wording should be made more general so as to include eval-after-load and with-eval-after-load (and eval-next-after-load). > 2. (info "(elisp) Coding Conventions") has already stated that the use > of `eval-after-load' isn't recommended. Repetition is not bad, Stefan