From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Org merging [was Re: next pretest] Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 09:06:30 -0400 Message-ID: References: <834mxjja88.fsf@gnu.org> <878umuytw7.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <1pk36du2dp.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <8761hwsxt4.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87fvh03z02.fsf@Rainer.invalid> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1408021618 28591 80.91.229.3 (14 Aug 2014 13:06:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 13:06:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Achim Gratz Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 14 15:06:51 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XHujz-0001sU-95 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 15:06:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53962 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XHujy-0001wk-Pv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 09:06:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48940) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XHujn-0001wd-AD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 09:06:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XHujf-0001e9-R9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 09:06:39 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:30651) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XHujf-0001dv-No for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 09:06:31 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArUGAIDvNVPAqyKr/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSsA9gRcXdIIlAQEBAQIBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiAQI0hkXjnoHhDgElGKWIYNMIQ X-IPAS-Result: ArUGAIDvNVPAqyKr/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSsA9gRcXdIIlAQEBAQIBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiAQI0hkXjnoHhDgElGKWIYNMIQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,753,1389762000"; d="scan'208";a="86742226" Original-Received: from 192-171-34-171.cpe.pppoe.ca (HELO pastel.home) ([192.171.34.171]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 14 Aug 2014 09:06:30 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id C5C6860942; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 09:06:30 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Achim Gratz's message of "Thu, 14 Aug 2014 06:43:39 +0000 (UTC)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:173663 Archived-At: > If that's your problem then it can be changed easily enough. That's not the only problem: org-mode is an oddball case nowadays, since all other packages are "built locally from source". > The current naming scheme is only in place to provide a continuing > stream of increasing version numbers to fit in with earlier releases > of Org as a package. Changing that would require manual intervention > from the user to force the "downgrade" of Org once and we wanted to > avoid that. I think for the user a version like org-8.2.7. would be much better than what we have now. The manual intervention is indeed a problem, but I think we can't really avoid it (tho package.el should probably be changed to recognize version numbers of the form 20yymmdd and treat them as "smaller than they appear"). > I'd still have to check if package.el deals correctly with a package name of > orgmode-8.2.7c-39-ge112f3c M-: (version-to-list "8.2.7c-39-ge112f3c") ==> error M-: (version-to-list "8.2.7c.39") ==> error M-: (version-to-list "8.2.7c") ==> (8 2 7 3) M-: (version-to-list "8.2.7.39") ==> (8 2 7 39) So this suggests version numbers shouldn't end in "c", in order to be able to tack on a "bugfix counter" after it. Stefan