From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Convert some files from outline-mode to org-mode Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 14:36:26 -0400 Message-ID: References: <520c3307-7cb2-62a6-7b37-ca9ba5333370@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="74313"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?windows-1252?Q?Cl=E9ment?= Pit-Claudel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 26 20:37:40 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jSm9r-000JDq-F6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 20:37:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42242 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSm9q-0000Zw-Fa for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 14:37:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38468) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSm8m-0007HF-Rd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 14:36:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSm8l-0007T5-QI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 14:36:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:23937) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSm8l-0007Sn-9t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 14:36:31 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 0360280EC0; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 14:36:29 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 56AE880D7C; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 14:36:27 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1587926187; bh=npqgVFW/0yjCQ2rD/RGugHbGQpDQMH6VH9H/sd25FNg=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=QIcj4WbEYQ4n3Os+jkjvK3k1/c9G5tVo0QBjC1CIWD++9SNotsBDlng3Rsk0HuLaG WRYaUiRQftQfJOGlwo8qhbgU+h41C1k+bsCwwJGy1qXkMopSL+rhipRxIhhVMHjs2q ovcAsDTN5LdhAnhxCgE5m7MbS9lfYNHOl8WW0U2iMol7NtEELjavOHn+KznxW2Bfac j4BRjL8hg1Odz7enzROa0d4MD12/zdSvV59Ykx8lsZ3pOquplJr1l4MXHa/aVH6jQu ARNQWn69w9fK0kPog4SOmy/3h1dBkQnceUXFFoI6xZw0P0Us3JBBVaIKtDyfyAlTOv 8tzh1kqEsDbRg== Original-Received: from alfajor (69-165-158-35.dsl.teksavvy.com [69.165.158.35]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F3B801205FE; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 14:36:26 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <520c3307-7cb2-62a6-7b37-ca9ba5333370@gmail.com> (=?windows-1252?Q?=22Cl=E9ment?= Pit-Claudel"'s message of "Sun, 26 Apr 2020 12:13:31 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/04/26 14:36:29 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 132.204.25.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247856 Archived-At: >> * etc/TODO: Use org-mode instead of outline-mode. >> So please make it known how you feel about this proposal. > This sounds like a great idea to me. Yes please :) > I get very confused every time I open one of these files. It looks > sufficiently similar to org to switch my org-mode reflexes on, and besides > I've never see the plain outline-mode used anywhere else. I'm a sufficiently naive user of those systems that I must say I have no idea what concrete difference it would make on those files. From where I stand the only visible difference for me would be that it might delay the display of the buffer by a few seconds while Org-mode loads (tho there's a chance, this cost would be recovered later when I open one of my Org files in the same session). So could someone summarize what are those "org-mode reflexes" that need switching, as well as any other impact (including hypothetical future benefits which will only materialize after we make further changes to those files to take advantage of some Org features)? Stefan